[9363] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Clarificationon ISOC and its charter please- was discussion on problems on AUP and varuous newtworks
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (AIKEN@ccc.nersc.gov)
Thu Dec 30 20:21:47 1993
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 17:21:13 -0800 (PST)
From: AIKEN@ccc.nersc.gov
To: com-priv@psi.com, ietf@ietf.cnri.reston.va.us, amc@cnri.reston.va.us
Cc: vcerf@cnri.reston.va.us, hwb@sdsc.edu, amr@cnri.reston.us.va
I am posting this to both the COM-PRIV mailer (where this discussion is
taking place) and the IETF list since it raises the question of what the
ISOC' roles with repsect to the INternet is/or is intended to be.
thanks
bob aiken
PS just wanted to usher in the new year with a bang
>Hans-Werner,
>>administration, and management considerations. While individual
>>Internet components are often well run, the way the global flow weave
>>is held together is not manageable in the long run, it depends very
>>heavily on the good will and high level of dedication of individuals
>>(that are also supported in their collaboration by their institutions).
>You raise a number of significant institutional, operational, and
>administrative issues that the Internet Society as the global international
>organization aegis for the Internet and internetworking was intended to handle
Excuse me Tony - but are suggesting that the ISOC was to be THE org to address
internet internetworking issues? I continually get confused as to what the
ISOC is/purports to be. I thought it was a professional society? IF so - then
yes - it can be concerned with the Internet - but this does not give it
authority over other organizations' networks, the way they interoperate,
the policies they enforce, or any other part of their business activities.
Are you stating a Sprint Policy that SPRINT looks (Or should) to ISOC to
address its internetworking/peering/business issues? IS the ISOC a standards
body (ie. does ISOC own the work done in the IETF?), a profesional society
(works through its membership to work on related matters (like IEEE- which BTW
is also International), or an OPERATIONAL organization?
Many of the issues that Hans-Werner points out is due to the fact that the
Internet is made up of a large number of independent network service providers,
information service providers, and users. Although the ISOC may wish they
spoke for all of these entities I don't believe they do nor do I remember the
ISOC being proposed as doing such - has its charter changed? HOw can the ISOC
address issues and policies of the independent organizations that comprise
the INternet? The number and diversity of the INternet is what has made it
a success - with distributed mgmt/control also comes additional headches -
ie the diff of democracy and totalitarianism.
>as this entire sector rapidly becomes ever more ubiquitous, worldwide, and
>broader in scope - especially commercial and other non-R&A uses.
>These issues and the necessary responsive support are being considered at
I again ask how the ISOC intends to "control" the numerous independent
organizations (commercial, R&E and others) of the Internet? Is the ISOC
going to issue guidance or orders to commercial vendors (Sprint, PSI, ANS, ...)
to the federal and state governments, campuses, International Governments and
PTTs,etc.?
As usual (like Jimi H.) I'm dazed and confused - any clarification of the ISOC
and its role/charter,in addition to what the ISOC intends to do with respect to
the issues HWB raised would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
bob aiken
happy new year
>the next Trustees meeting in February. I'll forward your note, and appreciate
>additional direct input.
>cheers,
>+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
> Tony Rutkowski
> THE INTERNET IS ITS OWN REVOLUTION
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