[9063] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: sleaze
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Williams)
Wed Dec 15 14:45:26 1993
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
To: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 14:43:11 -0500 (EST)
Cc: sdw@meaddata.com, francis@avalle.insoft.com, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <9312151731.AA09510@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov.ocf> from "Mark Boolootian" at Dec 15, 93 09:31:08 am
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> >I posted, I think to com-priv also, a solution more easily implemented
> >that attempted to achieve the same end: Create a new kind of message
> >(that current news software would just see as a normal message) that
> >allows positive or negative endorsement of messages.
>
> This is all well intentioned, and perhaps it is a start. But as long as
> individuals can create arbitrary TCP connections, you will not be able to
> prevent people from circumventing your system. I would be willing to bet you
> that as soon as users see that mechanisms are being developed to mitigate
> the transmission of certain kinds of data via netnews, an effort to produce
> software to end-run around this problem would surface.
Why would there be any problem circumventing the system?
I explicitly stated and designed the system so that adults/normal
users can see anything they want.
Only in a restricted mode would the READER software filter/hide the
messages as the administrator configured.
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> If someone somewhere on the net wants to make available X-rated gifs, a copy
> of the Satanic Verses, words to the song "Cop Killer", or any other item
> which some find morally repugnant, then unless you can bring the law down on the
> individual making this resource available, or severe their connection to the
> net, there is little you can do to prevent other sites from accessing this
> data.
I would never want to keep other sites or normal users on my site from
accessing anything. I would fight censorship of adults completely.
In fact, one of the reasons I may push myself to develop the above
scheme is so I can put restrictions of censorship use in the copyright
license. ("This software will not be used or modified so as to
prevent adult users from gaining access to any information. This is a
legitimate use for minors or as a default changable by an adult user.
An exception is allowed for trade secret situations.
(Internal/external users on the same system.)")
Suggestions are welcome.
> However, I'm not sure if this discussion is about preventing children from
> accidentally stumbling across a group such as alt.sex, or from preventing
> children from intentionally accessing that material. The former has some chance
> of coming to pass; the latter, I think, none whatsoever.
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> mb
The former is all I'm interested in. Once someone is to the point of
acheiving the latter, he/she is obviously searching out the material.
This is no different from children calling sex-lines, ordering
mail-order sex material, etc. Heck, brochures for sex videos are
hardcore and they don't cost anything.
sdw
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