[8993] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet

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Re: sleaze

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rose Marie Holt)
Tue Dec 14 16:09:23 1993

Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 12:58:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Rose Marie Holt <rmholt@u.washington.edu>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: bukys@cs.rochester.edu, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <199312142005.AA22583@world.std.com>


My $.02, as a mere consumer with kids.  Is there any reason why people 
with net access should NOT have a origination address posted with their 
postings.  Then that would change the problem to tracing fake origins; is 
that manageable?  Also, once we know the origin of an offensive post, 
what do we do?  How about enforcing existing laws, adapted to the net, 
re: porn, crossing state lines for immortable porpoises, etc. to start.  
How about also requiring special coding, a la 900 and 976 numbers for 
legit "adult" material, allowing blocking?  As to stuff  whose legitimacy 
is debatable, how about leaving it to the parents.

On Tue, 14 Dec 1993, Barry Shein wrote:

> 
> >From: bukys@cs.rochester.edu
> >	A huge problem is that access providers do not control what's out
> >	there or reachable.
> >
> >The same is true of our phone company, which has the advantage of being a
> >common carrier.  Even so, there are still controls in place:
> >
> >	* Phone companies put for-pay sleaze services behind special phone
> >	numbers.  It is possible to disable access to those phone numbers
> >	as a group.  Even if not disabled, it is itemized on the phone bill
> >	so it can't be done in secret.
> into a totally non-internet related "Adult GIFs BBS" etc.
> 
> Consider again the (true) example I gave where someone posted incest
> porn to a k12 group.

Some things are just unavoidable.  Traceable return email addresses 
attached to postings may reduce/help eliminate this type of problem - 
anonymity encourages abuse.  This is Big Brotherist, though, and 
privacy/free speech may suffer.


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