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Frustrations re the T-3 Backbone, Cisco Routers, and Leadership

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gordon Cook)
Thu Apr 23 22:51:04 1992

To: com-priv@psi.com
Date: 23 Apr 92 22:20:29 EDT (Thu)
From: cook@tmn.com (Gordon Cook)


<<MESSAGE from>> Gordon Cook                          23-APR-92 22:20
                 cook@tmn
 The T-3 backbone continues to confound most observers. Consider what I 
 learned from Cisco at the Telestrategies Conference April 21 and 22nd.  In 
 November of 1991 Cisco began shipping a working clear channel T-3 router.  
 I mentioned that I had heard people from the NSF say in March of 1992 that 
 there were no commercially released routers that would do what had to be 
 done on the T-3 backbone.  Did Cisco's product have some deficiency?
 
 Absolutely not.  It would do everything necessary on the NSFnet ANSnet T-3 
 backbone.
 
 Well, it was being used?  ANS had said that it was using Ciscos colocated 
 at MCI POPs on the T-3?  Did Cisco agree?
 
 Well.... sort of.  The T-1 safety net backbone that connects to the T-3 as 
 a backup for T-3 failures is linked to the T-3 at 56kbs.  Cisco routers 
 are used on *that* linkage.
 
 But what about the T-3 routers?
 
 Some were used in the ANS test network was the answer but none in the 
 "production" network.
 
 One wonders why.
 
 But perhaps we will hear that finally all 16 nodes are peering with each 
 other?  And therefore the net is complete and that IBM's betatest T-3s are 
 no longer betatest?  But please someone refresh my memory....when I last 
 brought this discussion up a month ago someone was saying that for 
 technical reasons that were /are unclear to me the maximum throughput on 
 the t-3 backbone was only a bit more than 5 megabits per second.  Is this 
 still correct?  And if it is still correct then aren't we facing a 
 situation where ANS - presumably on behalf of IBM - is using the NSFnet 
 backbone as a TESTBED for continued T-3 router development rather than 
 supplying the higher bandwidth *NOW* that supporters of the NREN vision 
 continue to assert is necessary?
 
 The person to whom I was talking said that my interpretation that ANS was 
 using the backbone primarily as a testbed was perhaps unfair to ANS 
 because in Dec 90 when they started to develop their T-3 routers, Cisco 
 did not have its product out and ANS had made an awfully large investment 
 in its prototypes.  He could understand why it would hurt to dump them now 
 and replace them with Ciscos.  The desire to complete the testbed would 
 obviously be strong.
 
 But consider that the NSF is paying ANS an extra $7 million a year for a 
 backbone that some believe is being used primarily to benefit *product* 
 development on behalf of IBM.  Some might think it strange that the 
 government, having announced that it needs much higher speeds on the net, 
 is paying much more money for slightly higher speeds to an awardee chosen 
 almost five years ago.  I have heard some wonder given the benefits to IBM 
 that IBM through ANS enjoys, ANS (IBM) is not PAYING the National Science 
 Foundation for the privileges it enjoys.
 
 Now one of the staffer's from the House Science committee acknowledged 
 that the concern that led to the hearings in March was ignited by the 
 appearance that the NSF was not in control.  Yet here we are at a major 
 meeting where the NSF was the ONLY major player that did not even SHOW UP. 
  And here we are with some suggestions that the draft solicitation that 
 was due by the NSF's own schedule in February is not likely to make it out 
 in May and may be significantly further delayed.
 
 One wonders whether the NSF will be asking the science board to extend the 
 Merit agreement this fall by 24 to 30 months instead of 12 to 18?  I have 
 the feeling that if the NSF were a private corporation we would have seen 
 some major shakeups by now.
 
 How did we get in such a log jam that representatives of the congress are 
 saying that they can do nothing until they see what the NSF is going to do 
 and the NSF responds by doing nothing?
 
 I submitt that the network is too important to be "run" this way.  We KNOW 
 what the problems are although we all don't agree that they are the same.  
 Why can't we find a LEADER to start SOLVING them?  Surely I am not the 
 only person who is deeply frustrated?
 
 Any one have some ideas on how to solve the problem?
 


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