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Re: pointless bickering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Herron)
Sat Mar 2 17:43:09 1991

To: Edward Vielmetti <emv@ox.com>
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 02 Mar 91 15:33:10 -0500.
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 91 14:09:29 -0800
From: David Herron <david@TWG.COM>

> it would be very interesting (Eliot?) to
> identify all of the interesting ietf lists, stuff like com-priv and
> nntp-managers, and other mail-only lists into a "controlled distribution"
> set of netnews newsgroups.

I thought this experiment had already been done (Distribution: inet)
and showed that it wasn't possible to do a controlled distribution.

But then Clarinet is a "controlled distribution" which makes the subscribers
sign a contract saying that it will be a controlled distribution, and
I assume that there's enforcement going on.

Perhaps the `problem' with `inet' is that since it was put in with
the rest of the newsgroups people came to stop limiting their
distribution.  I know that in Kentucky I didn't hesitate for a second
in sending `inet' off the TCP/IP network.

Oh.. and netnews does exist on BITNET, and has for many years.
Remember that our feed in Kentucky was PSUVM.PSU.EDU (an IBM 308x) for
a looong while.  It just isn't very widespread & the people doing it
have some weirdo ideas & they mainly see it as an alternate way of
reading/distributing LISTSERV based mailing lists.  Or so is my impression.

Finally.. is this true:  That the bickering is being caused because the
various administrations want there to be only one network in place?  It
is certainly possible to have one network & push multiple protocols
around on it.  Our own internal network here has at least TCP/IP,
DECNET (I assume), Novell, Appletalk and Ungermann Bass's XNS (I
assume) floating around in it.  And for long-distance there's been
support in routers, Proteons for instance, for other protocol suites.
PPP & the newer routing protocols make this much more doable ..

Or is it being caused by the old anti-IBM wars?

Or?


	David


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