[2593] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
world.std.com
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Thu Mar 19 01:24:00 1992
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 92 01:22:32 -0500
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
To: Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu
Cc: SEAN@SDG.DRA.COM, com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu's message of Thu, 19 Mar 92 00:27:26 EST <12295439@um.cc.umich.edu>
>From: Jeff.Ogden@um.cc.umich.edu
>This whole business about AUPs is confusing, but I think it is
>really simpler than most people think. The key thing would be for
>the folks at world.std.com not to initiate any use of NSFNET that
>isn't in support of education and research. This means not using
>their link to NSFNET themselves unless it is in support of education
>and research and it would mean explaining to their users at the
>time that accounts are setup that there are rules that need to
>be followed for activities that originate on world.std.com.
I have no problem with that, and actively educating people.
One problem is that I can get to probably 75% (for argument's sake, a
lot, depends on how you measure it) of the world-wide internet via
CIX, or joint arrangements through Alternet (non-NSF.)
Now, commercial activities are permitted on that 75%, within reason
but certainly doesn't have to meet AUP since it never traverses NSFnet
(some of those nets may have their own rules, but let's keep it
simple.)
How does a person know if they are about to hit that other 25% (or
50%, let's not quibble the number)?
Here's an example, I think it's correct, something like this came up
last week here, but it gives you the idea:
Many, probably most, *.cornell.edu systems are reachable from here via
CIX.
One *.cornell.edu system (I forget which) someone asked us about the
other day seemed to be setup to prefer going via their NSS or
something, wouldn't route towards us but was reachable from fully
connected sites. I am 99% sure the same site was accessible a few days
before via CIX.
What does the agreement/education read?
"Although it is nearly impossible to determine, in
practice when your packets will traverse the NSFnet
backbone and indeed the same host might change from
hour to hour due to network reconfigurations at a
site you are responsible for obeying these rules."
Worth a moment's thought.
-Barry Shein
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