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Trust and the T-3 Network

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gordon Cook)
Sat Mar 14 02:42:13 1992

To: com-priv@psi.com
Date: 14 Mar 92 02:16:35 EST (Sat)
From: cook@tmn.com (Gordon Cook)


<<MESSAGE from>> Gordon Cook                          14-MAR-92  2:16
                 cook@tmn
 Are there really no limits on the delivery to the NSFnet community of a 
 functioning t-3 network by MERIT ANS?  Let me make clear that by this I 
 mean to wonder whether there is any point out there at all beyond which, 
 if all 16 NSFnet nodes are not connected to the regional and t-1 backbone 
 ethernets and carrying meaningful data and functioning at some defined 
 level of up time, the NSF will get to call in its cards and say that 
 someone *ELSE* has a chance to use other hardware and software to 
 accomplish what was alledged at the hearings can be done right now?
 
 Look at the discussion on this list.  In December we heard from ANS that 
 the t-3 network was complete.  The uninitiated might assume that meant 
 that all 16 nodes were passing real live data.  Uh, apparently not so.  
 Evidently two of the 16 nodes: Nearnet, and Barrnet, and the North 
 Carolina state network connected as a private ANS customer were passing 
 live data.
 
 After MERIT stated in a press release on March 5th that traffic from over 
 half of the NSF sites had been migrated to the T-3 backbone, I am told by 
 a reliable source that, it was asked specifically how many of the 16 
 backbone sites were passing live data from the regional T-1 networks to 
 the t-3 backbone.  The reply apparently was 6 of the 16 sites.  One would 
 think that an announcement of traffic from over half the sites 
 successfully migrated would mean that 9 of the 16 nodes were connected.  
 If you look at the message that merit sent me, of the six sites connected, 
 4 were connected in february.  Therefore, by process of elimination in 
 December, the stabilization test of the "completed" t-3 backbone was done 
 with two of the 16 nodes - Barrnet and Nearnet.  But perhaps since 
 Suranet, by far and away the largest regional, is now on T-3, what Merit 
 meant was more that half the institutions connected to the regionals were 
 now on the t-3 net?  I have talked in the past 6 weeks to numerous 
 regionals.  They consistently tell me that they have been pressured to 
 cutover to what they believe to be unreliable t-3 service but now that 
 parts of the T-1 are becoming unreliable they feel they have no choice.
 
 Meanwhile at the hearings, the assertion was made that there are reliable 
 off the shelf t-3 routers now on the market.  I have been told by a member 
 of this list that NetCom (do I remember the name correctly?) builds such a 
 router.  On the other hand I thought I heard some NSF staffers sitting 
 next to me disagree.  It would be interesting to find out why.
 
 The committee was quite adament that the NSFnet should not be considered 
 as "precompetitive" or a place for technology development. This being the 
 case, can it be that MERIT and ANS will be allowed to continue to use the 
 production network as a testbed for router design for another 24 months.  
 Sure maybe the routers will suddenly work next week.  However, haven't we 
 heard a very long string of "trust us"?  How long under these conditions 
 does trust endure?
 
 I am a newcomer to this community.  People here tell me that it has grown 
 up successfully because of a spirit of trust and cooperation. Could it be 
 that that trust has become over taxed?  Is this what Jim Bruce of MIT 
 meant when he told this list in December that he considered the foundation 
 on which the NSF was building the NREN to be broken?
 
 During the past year I have heard very little about sustainable trust. 
 What happened?  It would be ironic if pursuit of federal dollars tied up 
 in NREN technology were to destroy it.  Did it disappear when ANS was 
 created to solve a commercial use problem that according to Steve's 
 posting today now may not be a problem any longer?  The t-3 backbone was 
 privatized by ANS.  What good has it brought to the network community?  I 
 am hearing some very disquieting tales.


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