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Re: NREN and the Economics of Mainframes Versus Workstations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Mandelbaum)
Thu Jan 23 09:28:14 1992

To: cook@tmn.com (Gordon Cook)
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 23 Jan 92 01:58:52 -0500.
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 92 08:33:18 -0500
From: Richard Mandelbaum <rma@tsar.cc.rochester.edu>

Why doesn't your computational scientist use his sun workstation in 
the chemistry department to do E-mail with as well. This whole story
sounds very strange. No one charges $250/month for E-mail unless you 
are doing a hell of a lot of E-mail and storing it on site and perhaps
"forgot" about the other 500 megs of storage you have on the machine etc. etc.

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	 <<MESSAGE from>> Gordon Cook                          23-JAN-92  1:58
	                  cook@tmn
	  I had a very interesting conversation this evening witha com[putation
	al 
	  scientist who uses compuserve to send and receive internet email.  Th
	e 
	  reason why is fascinating.  His university computer center charges hi
	s 
	  grant $250 a month for his VAX account and the only thing he used the
	 VAX 
	  for was sending email.  Compuserve costs far less..... even though I 
	have 
	  heard that they now charge 15 cents per every 2 kilobytes for interne
	t 
	  email.  Is this true?  If they have an email surcharge will attmail a
	nd 
	  mcimail be far behind?
	  
	  I asked him how he telnets to his friendly NSF supercomputer center. 
	 from 
	  the sun workstation in the chemistry department was the answer. 
	  Researchers are apparently abandoning the university mainframes en ma
	ss. 
	  It would be interesting to know if any economist has looked at the co
	st to 
	  american education of keeping its mainframe infrastructure alive.  Th
	e 
	  NREN legislation lets researchers use their grants for network expens
	es 
	  for the first time.  has anyone ever tried to quantify how much of th
	is 
	  money will go in the form of surcharges to university mainframes rath
	er 
	  than to buyingnew networking services for university scientists.  the
	 
	  economics behind NREN on many levels appear to be murky.  it would be
	 
	  interesting to know how the economics of use of university computing 
	  centers are changing and to what extent access to the net *IS* still 
	a 
	  free good for university faculty.
	  
	  I would appreciate hearing publicly or privately reactions to these 
	  questions.
	 

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