[10785] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet

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Re: Billing on the net (was Re: Internet vs Minitel)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Miles R Fidelman)
Wed Mar 9 11:38:00 1994

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 06:34:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Miles R Fidelman <fidelman@civicnet.org>
To: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <199403090251.SAA14750@netcom9.netcom.com>

On Tue, 8 Mar 1994, Glenn S. Tenney wrote:

> Unfortunately, Miles, "you don't get it" :-) ...  Being able to get a
> credit card number over the net does nothing for the small information
> provider.   Have you ever tried to establish a merchant's credit card
> account with your bank?  I suggest that you do so...   My company has two
> corporate accounts at a large bank, have been with this large bank for
> about nine years, and was told "You can apply for a merchant account if you
> want to, but WITHOUT A STORE FRONT, WE DON'T SAY YES."   Besides, getting a

Actually - yes, without a store front, and successfully, but that's 
another story :)
> 
> Cryptography is not the solution to billing on the net.  It is *A* solution
> to a subset of the problem for medium to large providers, but it is nothing
> like the Minitel solution which does satisfy the needs of the small
> information provider.

Sure, good point.

> 
> Now, if you had suggested that all telecom providers be required to handle
> the billing (the way the telcos do [or did] for 976 numbers), then you'd
> have a solution that would work and support small information providers.
> 

Of course another would be if someone set up a third party 
clearinghouse.  I have one account with someone who resells other 
people's information services or acts as a billing consolidator.  Doesn't 
have to be the telcos.  Again, cryptography is an enabling requirement - 
kerberos would work pretty well in such an environment.


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