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Re: Would Mike Nelson Please Explain His Mission?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jayne levin)
Sun Feb 27 06:32:05 1994

Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 12:11:40 -0500 (EST)
From: jayne levin <helen@access.digex.net>
To: Marty Salo <msalo@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Cc: Gordon Cook <cook@path.net>, com-priv@psi.com, interesting-people@eff.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.07.9402122330.C167281-b100000@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>


Marty,

FYI-I did not take Danny W.'s special report. I was standing face to face
with Mr. Gore when he commented on the government agencies authorized to
hold the Clipper keys. I was the only reporter, and I got it on tape. The
comments Mr. Gore made about the administration's position on Clipper "not
locked in stone" were made in response to a direct question by me. 

Jayne

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On Sat, 12 Feb 1994, Marty Salo wrote:

> For what it's worth, I don't think Jayne Levin interviewed Mr. Gore
> separately.  I think Jayne Jevin used Mr. Weitzner's (sp?) report, and did
> not end note.  Before you flame, realize that I'm not an advocate of
> citing sources at every turn.  IMHO, if we attributed every thought, few
> of our thoughts would be original.  The net is fast and furious.  We must
> accept what is said by some sources to be truth.  Otherwise, what are we
> to believe?
> 
> Again, FWIW, Mr. Gore might have gotten a bit flustered, and attributed
> the key-holding decisions to "low-level employees," implying that the
> key-holders probably will change.  Mr. Nelson might have acted a bit
> hastily to try to reassure the NSA that Mr. Gore was not backing down on
> their evesdropping operations.  Maybe Mr. Gore would like to back down on
> the NSA's plan, but can't.  Who knows.
> 
> I've thought about this, and I would like to know, how someone, once they
> have been evesdropped (i.e. the NSA has gotten the court order, and both
> keys were obtained), will ever regain their privacy?
> 
> This question is asked with the naivete of my grandmother.  Making many
> assumptions favorable to the NSA.  I would appreciate an answer from
> someone who knows.
> 
> Not having an answer, I'm left to speculate.  Probably, there will be no
> privacy.  Probably, everyone will be under survielance.  Our rights
> garanteed by the constitution will be amended to account for the NSA
> evesdroppers.  Gone will be our Miranda protections against
> self-incrimination, and numerous other conditions established to "protect
> the citizen from the oppressive government."
> 
> Thomas Jefferson would roll over in his grave. 
> 
> 
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