[10547] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Strange Events at the National Science Board meeting Today
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hans-Werner Braun)
Sat Feb 26 20:38:10 1994
From: hwb@upeksa.sdsc.edu (Hans-Werner Braun)
To: cook@path.net (Gordon Cook)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 8:52:56 PST
Cc: com-priv@psi.com
In-Reply-To: <9402121737.aa23123@pandora.sf.ca.us>; from "Gordon Cook" at Feb 12, 94 5:37 pm
Gordon:
The information you are looking for is for ages already available by
FTP from nis.nsf.net, including a T3 network map showing 19 external
nodes. I just looked at a copy of a map that is there since, I think,
1992. We had used a 19 node map also in several papers we published
(check pub/sdsc/anr/papers/README on ftp.sdsc.edu for a list). The
statistics Merit/NSF/ANS makes available on nis.nsf.net
(nsfnet/statistics) also show 19 NSFNET access points.
I am not sure, given all the work Steve Wolff has to do, and
attempts of several people to corner him on kind of every little
detail, why you expect he has to answer to every little question
someone is asking. For this kind of stuff he is paying people, e.g.,
the Merit NSFNET Information Services group. Just call them up and ask
them for what all the NSFNET funded access nodes (E-NSS) are. It is
their job to answer for this kind of general information. Should be
even less expensive than sending 19 letters. If they would not be
responsive to such questions, then it may be appropriate to approach
the NSFNET director at NSF (who in turn reports to Steve Wolff).
While I have not asked Steve specifically, I doubt he has made a
policy decision to hide two nodes from Gordon Cook and even declare
the 19th to be top secret (may be he keeps it in his basement for all
his com-priv mail?).
In case you are unable to get/read/phone the information (I really hate
seeing you left out in the dark), the three nodes you are missing are
(in my words, not sure what the official wording is) interagency nodes
to allow collaboration among agencies of the federal government, in
concert with the requirements of the NREN activities. Those are at
FIX-West, FIX-East, and {D}ARPA. I do not believe there is anything
secret about this.
Hans-Werner
>Sounds like relatively little info becomes part of the public record Steve.
>I asked you I believe a week ago privately to explain your FOIA statement to
>me that you funded 8 nodes for 6.454 million a year in 1991 and another 10
>in 1992 for 4.5 million a year for T-3, when to the best of my recollection
>the public record up to this point has said you funded 16 nodes not 18.
>
>I'd like to know what the 18 nodes are and to have identified the twwo that
>apparently have not yet become part of the public record.
>
>The t-3 deal added 3 nodes (Boston, Atlanta, and Argonne labs in Illinois)
>as new nodes to a 13 node network. Right. How did we get from 16 to 18?
>
>Please respond either in public or in private.
