[10117] in Commercialization & Privatization of the Internet
Re: Andrews Univ. & C. Thomas
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ed Tully)
Tue Feb 8 08:39:49 1994
From: tully@cscns.com (Ed Tully)
To: postman@lists.psi.com (George Herbert)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 6:35:28 MST
Cc: com-priv@psi.com, gwh@crl.com
In-Reply-To: <199402080526.AA09814@crl2.crl.com>; from "George Herbert" at Feb 7, 94 9:26 pm
In short: what crap. are you guys really serious? get a life!
I have never seen a discussion carried on so far, by so many, over nonsense.
Ed Tully
>
>
> >By who's standards of "acceptable" behavior? I forget what Dave H called it
> >but it was something like the gods of the internet. Who gave any of us
> >censure rights?
>
> Let's for example use my standards for a second. I'm the moderator
> of two newsgroups, sci.space.tech and sci.space.science . I have pretty
> liberal standards for those newsgroups; space, astronomy, engineering,
> some policy issues, some aviation things, and a little bit of space-related
> kibbitzing are OK. I'll gladly put up with that.
>
> I will _not_ put up with two seperate, very large articles I have to
> read at 2400 baud which are babbling about Jesus in groups which have
> zero use for it. I sent Mr Thomas a bill for wasting some of my time,
> and haven't heard anything back yet. I don't know if he intends to pay
> it or not, but I will be sending regular collection notices.
>
> I don't have any rights to take away his net access. Nor do you nor anyone
> else on here. The only power or right I have along those lines is to
> convince those who _can_ do so (his real-life bosses) that it should
> be done, and I asked them to do so, and they agreed with me and the other
> thousand odd people who complained. Ten thousand people could have
> argued in support of religous freedom and changed the result, or not.
> What we think doesn't matter, what his bosses think does, and they thought
> he was way out of line.
>
> If he thinks his rights are being violated he can either find a job
> somewhere where they agree with his opinions on appropriate postings,
> find a commercial internet provider who'll sell him an account and
> ignore the flames over inappropriate postings, or last but not least
> he can buy a PC and run UUCP on it and pay UUNET to transit the postings.
> UUNET will transit just about anything, so he's not likely to be censored
> if he's running his own bedroom machine. But until he does so, he has
> no right to expect me not to ask those who are responsible for the
> computers he's using to be responsible for what comes from them.
>
>
> -george william herbert
> gwh@crl.com
>
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