[25875] in Athena Bugs
Re: sun4 9.3.8: xwrapper
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jacob Morzinski)
Tue Jul 27 18:18:44 2004
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:18:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jacob Morzinski <jmorzins@mit.edu>
To: Robert A Basch <rbasch@mit.edu>
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Robert A Basch wrote:
> I will look into whether anything changed in 9.3 affecting these
> machines' ability to run in 24-bit mode. (I do not know offhand if
> asteroids ran in 24-bit mode previously).
Hi,
OLC had a recent question, where someone had two machines revert
to 8-bit mode after the 9.3 update. rbasch asked me to send a
copy of the OLC transaction, so I include it below. (Skip down to
line 57; the first few lines are an unrelated question about Dash.)
-Jacob
athena% dsgrep -p -t 14020 oxwindows
oxwindows [14020]: dennis: Configuring Sun Ultra/SunBlade in 24-bit mode.
Log Initiated for IS_Director_VDI Dennis Baron (dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0]).
[Wed 14-Jul-04 11:19am]
Topic: workstations
Question:
When I log in I get an error message from Dash.
Console logs:
11:17 dash: opening '/usr/athena/lib/Dash.menus': No such file or directory
11:17 dash: trying fallback file
This just started this week.
Machine info:
Version : Athena Server (sun4) Version 9.3.8 Tue Jul 13 01:55:09 EDT 2004
Processor: Sun Ultra 5 or Ultra 10
Display : none
Memory : m frame buffer; 131072 (128 M) total
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--- Comment by consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [0].
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bugs[25803]
*** Reply from consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [1].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 11:41am]
Hello, and thank you for using OLC! You asked:
>> When I log in I get an error message from Dash.
>> Console logs:
>>
>> 11:17 dash: opening '/usr/athena/lib/Dash.menus': No such file or directory
>> 11:17 dash: trying fallback file
>>
>> This just started this week.
It looks like what happened is that during the upgrade to Athena 9.3, a
corresponding Dash.menus file was not created. For now, Dash should
automatically revert to using the default menus file. I've submitted a bug
report, which you can see in http://diswww.mit.edu/menelaus/bugs/
If you have any additional questions, please let us know! Otherwise, you
can close this question by typing "done" at the olc prompt.
Thanks,
Erica Peterson
Athena Consulting
*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 11:43am]
would this also cause a problem with display colors? It's like it doesn't
have all the colors that it used to. And when you switch windows the colors
in all the other windows gets "funky".
*** Reply from consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [1].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 12:11pm]
Are you using MWM, the default window manager for Dash? If you're using a
different window manager, there will be a line in your .environment file
that looks something like "setenv WINDOW_MANAGER foo". I tried logging in
with the Dash interface and MWM, and didn't notice any display color problems
switching between terminal and emacs windows - is this a general problem that
you are noticing, or just something that happens when you run a certain
program?
Thanks,
Erica
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*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
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setenv WINDOW_MANAGER mwm
I notice it with Mozilla and Gaim - xterm and Techtime don't seem to
cause the problem. I think it's just applications that use a lot of
colors.
*** Reply from consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [1].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 1:03pm]
I tried reproducing the problem with gaim and mozilla, without luck.
Several of the other consultants have suggested that this may be an
Ultra 5 specific issue, and your machine is not correctly using 24-bit
color - could you please try the following:
1) send us the output of the command "m64confing -prconf"
2) reboot your machine, while leaving the monitor powered on, and let us
know if that helps
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*** Reply from consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [1].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 1:12pm]
Err, my apologies, that was supposed to be "m64config -prconf"
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*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
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1)
defoucauld.mit.edu% m64config -prconf
m64config: /dev/fbs/m640: Permission denied
m64config: Continue (yes/no) ? yes
--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/m640 ---
ASIC: version 0x0
DAC: version 0x0
PROM: version 0
Current resolution setting: 0x0x0
Current depth: 0
2) rebooting didn't change anything.
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Ah, you'll need to be root before running that command
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*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
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defoucauld.mit.edu% m64config -prconf
--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/m640 ---
ASIC: version 0x7c004750
DAC: version 0x0
PROM: version 104
Card possible resolutions: 720x400x85, 640x480x60, 640x480x72, 640x480x75
800x600x56, 800x600x60, 800x600x72, 800x600x75, 1024x768x60
1024x768x70, 1024x768x75, 1280x1024x75, 1024x768x85, 800x600x85
640x480x85, 1280x1024x60, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67
1600x1280x76, 1920x1080x72, 1280x800x76, 1440x900x76
1600x1000x66, 1600x1000x76, 1920x1200x70, 1280x1024x85
1280x1024x76, 1152x864x75, 1600x1200x75, 1600x1200x60
1024x768x85, 800x600x75, 640x480x85, 1920x1200x60, 1920x1080x60
1400x1050x60, vga, svga, sxga+, 1152, 1280, 800x600, 1024x768
1280x1024, 1152x900, 1400x1050, 1600x1280, 1920x1080, 1600x1000
1920x1200, 1600x1200
Monitor possible resolutions: 720x400x70, 640x480x60, 640x480x75
800x600x60, 800x600x75, 1024x768x60, 1024x768x75, 1280x1024x75
1280x1024x85, 1600x1200x75, 800x600x75, vga, svga, 1280, 800x600
1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200
Possible depths: 8, 24
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x85
Current depth: 8
*** Reply from consultant astronut@GURGI.MIT.EDU [1].
[Wed 14-Jul-04 1:49pm]
Can you try running (as root): "m64config -depth 24" - you'll need to
log out and log back in again for the changes to take effect.
*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
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defoucauld.mit.edu% m64config -depth 24
m64config: Board does not support resolution none
m64config: No changes made; use "nocheck" to force change
do i need to give it a -res also?
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I'm using a SunBlade100 now and having the same problem.
mansoura.mit.edu% m64config -prconf
--- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/m640 ---
ASIC: version 0x65004752
DAC: version 0x0
PROM: version 104
Card possible resolutions: 720x400x85, 640x480x60, 640x480x72, 640x480x75
800x600x56, 800x600x60, 800x600x72, 800x600x75, 1024x768x60
1024x768x70, 1024x768x75, 1280x1024x75, 1024x768x85, 800x600x85
640x480x85, 1280x1024x60, 1152x900x66, 1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67
1600x1280x76, 1920x1080x72, 1280x800x76, 1440x900x76
1600x1000x66, 1600x1000x76, 1920x1200x70, 1280x1024x85
1280x1024x76, 1152x864x75, 1600x1200x75, 1600x1200x60
1024x768x85, 800x600x75, 640x480x85, 1920x1200x60, 1920x1080x60
1400x1050x60, vga, svga, sxga+, 1152, 1280, 800x600, 1024x768
1280x1024, 1152x900, 1400x1050, 1600x1280, 1920x1080, 1600x1000
1920x1200, 1600x1200
Monitor possible resolutions: 720x400x70, 640x480x60, 640x480x67
640x480x72, 640x480x75, 800x600x56, 800x600x60, 800x600x72
800x600x75, 832x624x75, 1024x768x60, 1024x768x70, 1024x768x75
1280x1024x75, 1024x768x85, 1024x768x85, 800x600x75, vga, svga
1280, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024
Possible depths: 8, 24
Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x75
Current depth: 8
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--- Comment by consultant astronut@CRUELLA-DE-VIL.MIT.EDU [0].
[Thu 22-Jul-04 12:37pm]
He tried adding the /etc/athena/x-no-wrapper file as suggested on
-c consult last week, and no change. it's happening on more than one
machine (including a sunblade), and he says that other people he knows
have noticed the same thing. i'm going to move this to Pending - if
anybody else wants to look at this, the relevant -c consult conversation
was on July 14, or just grep the logs for m64config
--- Description changed by consultant astronut@CRUELLA-DE-VIL.MIT.EDU [1].
[Thu 22-Jul-04 12:37pm]
odd colormap problem on suns after upgrade to 9.3, using Dash
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*** Reply from consultant jmorzins@MULTICS.MIT.EDU [0].
[Sun 25-Jul-04 2:36pm]
Hello,
I have wrestled with m64config a few times in the past month, so
I'll offer a comment.
I've found that it's sometimes necessary to use the "-file"
option to m64config in order to get the changes to keep. I
haven't figured out whether the correct option is "-file system"
or "-file machine", but I have found that if I use both, I get
the results that I want.
So, I think that if you log in as root and run the following two
commands, there's a good chance that you will restore an Ultra
to running in 24-bit mode.
m64config -file system -res 1280x1024x75 -depth 24
m64config -file machine -res 1280x1024x75 -depth 24
(I chose this particular "-res" value based on the output of
"m64config -prconf" that you reported earlier.)
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*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@DEFOUCAULD.MIT.EDU [0].
[Tue 27-Jul-04 9:22am]
defoucauld.mit.edu% m64config -file system -res 1280x1024x75 -depth 24
m64config: Not enough memory for resolution 1280x1024x75 at depth 24
m64config: No changes made; use "nocheck" to force change
defoucauld.mit.edu% m64config -file machine -res 1280x1024x75 -depth 24
m64config: Not enough memory for resolution 1280x1024x75 at depth 24
m64config: No changes made; use "nocheck" to force change
do I dare do the "nocheck" ?
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*** Reply from consultant jmorzins@BART-SAVAGEWOOD.MIT.EDU [0].
[Tue 27-Jul-04 10:29am]
Hello,
I don't think you want the nocheck. I'm sorry about the -res line;
I had forgotten that Ultras don't have very much video memory.
For an ultra, I think you want to use a resolution of either
1152x900x76 or 1152x864x75. 1152x900 is the more common choice,
so I expect the following to restore defoucauld to 24-bit mode:
m64config -file system -res 1152x900x76 -depth 24
m64config -file machine -res 1152x900x76 -depth 24
You may have to log out and back in, to let X restart.
The same commands should also work on mansoura. I don't know
whether mansoura has enough video memory to run 1280x1024 in
24-bit mode. You could do a test: first, set mansoura to
1152x900. Then, try setting it to 1280x1024. If the 1280x1024
attempt gives the same error message as you earlier got on
defoucauld, you'll know that mansoura can do at most 1152x900.
I hope this helps return the machines to 24-bit mode.
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*** Reply from IS_Director_VDI dennis@MANSOURA.MIT.EDU [0].
[Tue 27-Jul-04 1:17pm]
thanks, that fixed them both!
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--- Resolved by jmorzins@BART-SAVAGEWOOD.MIT.EDU.
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--- Conversation terminated at Tue 27-Jul-04 1:19pm
--- Title: Configuring Sun Ultra/SunBlade in 24-bit mode.
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