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Re: netscape and sawfish continue downward spiral of death

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Hawkinson)
Thu Oct 11 00:27:06 2001

Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:27:04 -0400
From: John Hawkinson <jhawk@MIT.EDU>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>
Cc: "t. belton" <tbelton@MIT.EDU>, bugs@MIT.EDU
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I suspect the problem is more a netscape problem than a sawfish
problem. The sawfish/mwm issue was one of attempting
mitigation.

Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU> wrote on Wed, 10 Oct 2001
at 16:50:56 -0400 in <200110102050.QAA25437@error-messages.mit.edu>:

> I don't think it's a netscape problem we can fix.  And I think we're
> okay with closing netscape bug reports we can't fix (after telling the
> user).  But I didn't want to do that myself.

It seems like we always assert it is useless to report bugs to
netscape, but I have to wonder if this is always true.

I can't recall ever seeing a copy of a netscape bug report and
don't feel like we've in good-conscience reported problems
that we should have.

Though in this case, there's not a lot to go on.  "Netscape appears to
grab the server and hang."  I suppose we could run netscape under
xscope for an extended period of time, perhaps even regularly, and see
if that told us anything. I dunno.

Maybe it would be interested to have a wrapper around netscape
that let us know how many netscapes that were cleanly started were
not cleanly exitted. Since there seems to be precedent for such tracking
in 3partysw land.

--jhawk

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