[14451] in Athena Bugs
Re: (Fwd) Re: FORGERY!!! (explain yourself tippy)]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (D.Renee`Gauthier)
Thu Jul 11 21:02:30 1996
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:44:50 +0000
From: "D.Renee`Gauthier" <tgauthier@earthlink.net>
To: bugs@MIT.EDU
>
> What's Up Doc? ~ wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 11, 1996 13:49:30 in <alt.revenge>, 'bugs@mit.edu (What's Up Doc?)'
> > wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:40:27 GMT, sberry@ivory.trentu.ca (Tipsy
> > McStagger) wrote:
> >
> > >>Doc: Someone just faked a post "I need help with tipsy" under my name (a
> > >>clear give away as I need no help to manage that twinkie asshole;
> > >>yes, I mean you tippy, a-s-s-h-o-l-e)... no doubt it was tippy looking
> >
> > >Tippy: I hardly think so, unless you have proof, which you do not. Your
> > Terms Of Service staff at Pipeline, however, are most interested in the
> > forgeries and are cancelling them -- and searching through the server logs
> > as I type. They will be shutting you down shortly since the dead giveaway
> > was the message-id that emanated from usa.pipeline.com.
> >
> > Doc: Ahh, I am glad you finally responded directly and in the open,
> > sherlock. I have been looking for you to defend your behavior in a
> > public forum. What took you so long? (fear?) And someone did post
> > that. But to the point: Why am I still here after your, oh so
> > devastating complaint? Another empty threat? You have these
> > delusions about the power of your confabulated complaints, and you
> > think you can scare everyone with that. Sorry, poopsie.
> >
> > >>Doc: ...for the third or fourth person to blame today for his troubles,
> > and
> > >>now decided to play games with me. A sad mistake, as I will now
> > >>address my complaints (and copies of tippy's revenge posts) to the
> > >>President of Trent University.
> >
> > Doc: Actually, that was an empty threat on my part, as I do not like
> > to mess with people's livelihood, school, etc. (not all of us are
> > rabid irresponsible dogs). But I guess you really need me to.
> >
> > >Tppy: As a note, those who post to alt.revenge post here because that's
> > >what the group is for. If you see something illegal about posting
> > >here then why are you posting here also? A funny thing, isn't it,
> > >when you are hypocritical.
> >
> > Doc: Don't play stupid, you know the issue is your harassment of
> > others OUTSIDE alt.revenge, not your opinions IN alt.revenge
> > (substandard as they may be):
> > (1) You attempted to intimidate Tracker and rbrown by sending multiple
> > complaints daily over several days to different departments at their
> > service providers because YOU didn't like their posts (which had
> > nothing to do with you) --this is both HARASSMENT and NET ABUSE. The
> > EVIDENCE (your letters, etc.) was posted by rbrown and attached to my
> > post "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH." Now you try to confuse the issue by claiming
> > some idiocy about whether it's legal to post to alt.revenge: You are
> > a hypocrite (and an asshole to boot).
> > (2) When Lady Trailblazer brought the post in question to your
> > attention (as a curtesy you imbecile) you did your multiple letter act
> > and accused HER of obscenity and harassment to the President of her
> > service, knowing full well that it wasn't true. Why, because you
> > thought she was sheltering the culprit? Ah, yes, the end justifies
> > the means to you. You are a bully, a hypocrite, and an asshole. And,
> > by the way, DO YOU KNOW THAT HER SERVICE WILL NO LONGER CARRY YOUR
> > POSTS? (Wow! Twitfiltered by a service! I am impressed!)
> > (3) For someone so quick to insult, harass, and abuse others, you are
> > rather thin-skinned about one post: Why? Did it touch a nerve? Come
> > too close to home? If you are going to try to bully your way through
> > life your should either grow a thicker skin, exercise, or get a man to
> > protect you (sorry, I am not interested).
> >
> > >Tip: Nonetheless, since you have no justification for your complaint
> > >(ie., an actual piece of proof of anything), the President, who
> > >has no time for people like yourself, is not going to take you
> > >seriously.
> >
> > DOC: Irrelevant. Evidence has been posted already. And you would be
> > surprised how far I can reach.
> >
> > >Tippy: On the other hand, if I make a complaint, it's generally
> > >valid and with real (not faked) evidence and genuine concerns
> > >based on netiquette alone, never a personal vendetta like yourself.
> >
> > DOC: Yes, of course, Lady Trailblazer, Tracker, Rbrown (and who was
> > that other fellow you accused of faking the post?) are clear evidence
> > of the validity and the METHODOLOGY of your complaints. (And don't
> > quote netiquette to me, as we all know the concept escapes you).
> >
> > >If I were doing the latter, I wouldn't need proof...- I'd
> > >just go and indiscriminately make life hard for you, without
> > >justifying my actions, just as you are.
> >
> > Doc: Really? Why don't you, buttercup? I can promise you a lifetime
> > of pain in (un)fair exchange. Yet I am glad that you appreciate the
> > distinction. Both exist in real life.
> >
> > > But, in fact, I justify it every step of the way when I complain. There
> > can be no other way and I certainly don't apologize for it. If you're in
> > the wrong, I'm not going to apologize for complaining. It is as simple as
> > that.
> >
> > Doc: Yes, like your former advocate, Lady Trailblazer, whom you
> > defamed and maligned, you rabid puppy. You did not apologize to her
> > either, even AFTER you were proven wrong. So let's see how this goes:
> > she advocated for you... sought to alert you... you accused her of
> > obsenity, abuse, asked her account terminated... the service looked...
> > cleared the Lady... you don't apologize!!! Your self-righteous crap
> > is an affront to common sense. Do you consider us at alt.revenge so
> > stupid? No, I think you really can't grasp it. Your problem, tippy,
> > is that you feel ENTITLED to anything you do. You are an antisocial
> > sick puppy.
> >
> > Why don't you explain to the alt.revenge community your justification
> > for items numbered 1 and 2 above. Those are the substantive issues
> > here. Show us that you were correct.
> >
> > >tippy: Now, can we get back to the business at hand, which is
> > alt.revenge, please.
> >
> > Doc: Of course not. I am not finished. Have you noticed that you
> > have no friends here? Have you noticed that you are the subject of
> > jokes and derision? I have a collection of some 60 articles on you
> > (two support you), do you want to read them? If it was simply a
> > matter of me picking on you (HA!), we'd just filter each other out and
> > be done with it. But you miss the point (and your attempts to vest
> > yourself as a victim are pathetic): if you are so right and correct,
> > why are you so disliked and excluded? Reality testing, pal: Isn't it
> > about time that you revisit your cherished image of yourself as fair,
> > measured and right?
> >
> > What's Up Doc?
> > PS. I included your usual threat, below, for your comfort (which we
> > understand in on-topic, not to be confused with off-topic 'Brosit').
> >
> > Tippy warns:
> > >* Any unsolicited commercial e-mail and/or the inclusion of my user-id in
> >
> > >* any mailing list without my express prior written approval, including
> > the
> > >* receipt of a mass e-mail message and/or the unauthorized reselling of
> > this
> > >* user-id to mailing list vendors, will be met with a complaint to your
> > >* internet provider. It is recommended you do not attempt these practices.
> >
> > >* Should you choose to ignore this warning, you will be subject to any
> > remedy
> > >* which may be exercised by your internet provider. You have been warned.
> >
> > --
> >
> > What's Up Doc? ~
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Hiya Doc!
>
> Thanks for the enlightenment contained in the above. I've just visited tippy's
> homepage. Shawnville. LAME. (I was gathering ammunition. Iscariotic, though it may be,
> the visit was very informative. I was able to see how pitiful his life really is. No
> one with a fulfilling life would put so much effort into getting other people into
> trouble, anyhow.) Do you know, he's only had about 3000 visitors to his page in seven
> months? What's the point? Anyway, it is my conviction that his time would be better
> spent renovating his website, rather than plaguing the usenet with his polemics and
> spleen.
> Here's a Nickel, tippy, go buy a clue.
>
> ~~~~Lady Renee`~~~~
