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decmips 7.6G: mtools, disk drives

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason M. Sachs)
Mon May 30 13:43:48 1994

To: bugs@MIT.EDU
Date: Mon, 30 May 94 13:43:40 EDT
From: Jason M. Sachs <nosaj@MIT.EDU>

System name:		sofa
Type and version:	KN02ca 7.6G (1 update(s) to same version)
Display type:		PMAG-DV 

What were you trying to do?
	use the disk drives + mtools to copy some files onto a floppy

What's wrong:
	I've reported this before, that i've had problems, however it
	now seems that there is something really wrong with either
	the hardware or the software.

	I'm home in NJ with a disk that I brought home. The disk
	had no hardware problems that I was aware of; then I copied
	some stuff on it with mtools just before i left, and now the
	disk has *physical errors* on it. Norton disk doctor is unable
	to read anything useful from it.

	Something similar has happened to other floppy disks before
	(they seem to suffer gradual degredation when I write onto
	them from an athena workstation), but it never really did so
	consistently, and i wasn't sure whether my disks had errors
	on it beforehand or whether they were getting screwed up from
	sitting in my backpack and being exposed to dirt ove the course
	of time.

	However, this disk I got from a friend, and it was completely filled
	with information and worked fine on her DOS machine (she said i could
	get rid of the stuff on it and have the disk), and after that one
	session of copying stuff onto it from an athena machine, (and bringing
	the disk home in a plastic bag on the train... somehow i doubt that
	the disk was corrupted during my journey home) it now has evil physical
	problems that render the disk unreadable and useless for any further
	purposes. (I can't format it.)

	Whether it is just the disk drives on athena machines (I've never used
	the Sun disk drives; it's always been from rs6000s or decstations or
	the vaxes in the course 6 cluster, and I log in on so many different
	machines that this problem does not seem confined to one machine)
	or mtools (maybe mwrite causes the drives to do something evil to my
	floppies), this is EXTREMELY UNACCEPTIBLE behavior. I'm glad
	I didn't have anything important on those floppies.

What should have happened:
	I would like a reliable way to transfer files between my athena account
	and a floppy disk. If athena drives don't measure up to par, then I
	just won't use them anymore. However, the only other option for me is
	to use either dialup or internet access to transfer files; dialup
	is slow if i'm going to be transferring say, 1 megabyte, and internet
	access is hard to find. (DCNS has some PC's on the network and i've
	been able to use ftp to transfer files this way before, though e40
	is somewhat out of the way.)

Please describe any relevant documentation references:
	i dunno. search me.

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