[856] in Athena User Interface
Re: Evolution status report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Winship)
Mon Aug 13 13:03:41 2001
From: Dan Winship <danw@ximian.com>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>
Cc: aui@MIT.EDU
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Date: 13 Aug 2001 13:03:09 -0400
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> * It defaults to using its own mail store format in the user's
> homedir, which is not what we would want.
(It's just mbox files, by the way.)
> * Dan says it doesn't have krb5 support because GSSAPI was a
> lot harder to deal with than krb4 (which I agree with).
Not so much "a lot harder to deal with" as "not completely trivial to
code the way that KERBEROS_V4 support was", and I didn't have a server
to test it against anyway, so I never bothered. (The MIT servers only
support krb4.)
> * I didn't see any evidence of MH support, which could affect
> our ability to do a smooth transition depending on how we
> decide our transition should work.
Evo can read MH-style folders, although not in ~/Mail. We mostly gave up
on the MH support, since MH doesn't do any kind of locking, so it's easy
to lose mail using both command-line MH and gui MH at the same time, and
if you just want a one-file-per-message format, Maildir is a lot better.
But it would be pretty easy to make an MH importer using the existing MH
support and importer framework. (It also wouldn't be very hard to make
it handle MH-style mail in ~/Mail, if you didn't care about the locking
problems.)
> * I had trouble getting it to check for new mail on the IMAP
> server; I think that feature is just not implemented yet.
No, it should work. One possibility is that the IMAP server was marked
"disabled" in the accounts dialog, which (because of a bug in 0.12)
makes it show up in the folder tree, but not check for new mail.
It should automatically notice new messages any time you make it send an
IMAP command (eg, fetching a message for the first time, or expunging
the folder), or when you switch to the folder from another folder, or
when you click "Send/Receive", or when the "automatically check for new
mail" timer times out, if you set that for the account.
> * It displays unread messages in bold and read messages in
> normal type... but its heuristic for what is a "read
> message" is...
The default (copied from Outlook) is that messages are marked read after
you've been looking at them for a certain amount of time. But it's
configurable. (Tools -> Mail Settings -> Display). You can also make it
mark messages read right away, or you can make it mark them read only
when you click on the envelope to toggle it manually.
The documentation about stuff like that will start to get a lot better
after the 1.0 UI freeze this Wednesday.
-- Dan
