[556] in Athena User Interface
Re: Configuration of sawfish, panel, gnome-terminal, control-center
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Tibbetts)
Mon Jan 1 11:53:22 2001
Message-Id: <200101011653.LAA20203@hikari-no-ken.mit.edu>
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@MIT.EDU>
cc: Richard Tibbetts <tibbetts@MIT.EDU>, aui@MIT.EDU, tibbetts@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:48:05 EST."
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:53:19 -0500
From: Richard Tibbetts <tibbetts@MIT.EDU>
On 1/1 you wrote:
> > I think that it is important not to have different root menus than
> > GNOME has by default.
>
> What does "GNOME" mean here? Is that gnome-with-enlightenment or
> gnome-with-sawfish? I don't think we want the default sawfish root
> menus.
gnome-with-sawfish. There is no gnome-with-enlightenment, at least not
that matters.
> > Left button - Primary functionality.
> [...]
> > Right button - Properties/other actions/context menu
> [...]
> > Following this standard, we get something like:
> > Left button - File manager (primary use)
> > Middle button - ???
> > Right button - window ops, desktop properties, list of windows
>
> I guess that depends on whether you see the file manager or the window
> manager as having the "primary use" of the root window, and whether
> you think the file manager menu or the window manager menu best fits
> the idea of "properties/other actions/context menu".
From a user's perspective its the desktop, and it has no association
with the windowmanager. You will find from a technical side of things
what 'Left button - File Manager' means is that you let hand left
clicks off to the filemanager program.
> Really, "primary use" usually means "click and something happens",
> not, "click and a menu comes up", and there's no natural action for
> the root window. That's an argument for having a left click do
> nothing, and having the right button do window manager, file manager,
> and desktop property operations (bit of a technical nightmare).
It may actually be the case that GNOME gives the right and left
buttons to the filemanager and the middle button is left for the
windowmanager. It is a hard problem to deal with, wanting to do bother
desktop filemanager stuff and legacy root window stuff.
What I mean to be saying here (and I took too long to say it the first
time) is that we should do whatever GNOME is doing with the menus,
because what we are coming up with is not that much better, it is just
different.
tibbetts
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