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Re: Usability testing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Wed Jun 21 12:04:11 2000

To: "Christopher D. Beland" <beland@MIT.EDU>
Cc: aui@MIT.EDU
From: tb@MIT.EDU (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Date: 21 Jun 2000 12:04:03 -0400
In-Reply-To: "Christopher D. Beland"'s message of "Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:22:03 -0400"
Message-ID: <u1hk8fjc970.fsf@pusey.mit.edu>


Almost all of these I think are great suggested improvements; I'm only
commenting on the small number I don't understand or I'm not sure about.

"Christopher D. Beland" <beland@MIT.EDU> writes:

>  - Right-click to get pulldown menu is not obvious enough; add button
>    instead.  Make it stay on top for very narrow windows, so they can
>    be closed, minimized, maximized, etc. intuitively.

Which pulldown menu for which application?

>  - Hard to move transient windows (i.e. zwgc) - decorate by default.

I tend to disagree here; I think zephyrgrams should be not decorated,
or at least, not with titlebars.  Maybe frames that you can grab, but
not heavyweight title bars.  (Of course M-drag will also work).

>  - Some iffy survey results came back on what people want Athena to
>    look like.  44% said Unix, 31% said Windows, and 7% said Mac.  More
>    reliable numbers give 40%, 80%, and 25%, respectively, on
>    familiarity with interface.  

AFAICT, "More reliable" means "more what Beland wants".  At least, can
you say what makes you think numbers B are more reliable than numbers A?

>    This, along with anecdotal evidence, makes me suspect that there
>    might be some amount of demand for Windows and Mac look-alike
>    themes, which we should be able to make available by just making
>    sure they're installed and don't break?  

There is already a Windows look-alike for gtk; it's called
"Redmond95".  No matter how much it would be a good idea, we must not
call it "Windows" or we run risk of trademark problems, and M$ is
nasty about that.

I don't know if there is a Mac look alike for gtk or either for
Sawmill.  I would be surprised if there are not.  If cannot find ones,
I think it's pretty low priority to write ones; again, "n% prefer the
windows interface" does not say anything about which things they
prefer; the things that themes configure may be utterly irrelevant (as
long as they can find the buttons at the top of the window, which yak
is being very careful with).

>  - What keyboard shortcuts for Sawfish should we enable by default?

Probably all the default sawfish ones.  

>  - Is click-to-focus or point-to-focus more popular?

Muaaa haaa haaa.  

>  - Should the panel be more than one row?  (Window taskbar can be
>    heightened just by dragging; this is convenient for cluttered
>    desktops.)

gnome-panel doesn't really support that IIUC, but you can have N
panels.

>  - Should the taskbar autohide?

No, that's confusing.  There is a feature users can enable; we might
want to suggest it.

>  - Should the taskbar have arrows on the hide buttons? 

Yes.

>  - Should the right-click popup menus onthe panel be diabled or
>    synched?

What is "synched"?  Certainly they shouldn't be disabled.


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