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Re: [ATN-4] More greeter candidates; vote today please
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Price)
Thu Jan 22 14:06:01 2009
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:10 -0500
From: Greg Price <price@MIT.EDU>
To: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>, Athena 10 <athena10@mit.edu>
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I prefer solid-border, then no-border, then no-feather.
Greg
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 01:16:59PM -0500, Quentin Smith wrote:
> I agree with Nelson; I prefer solid-border, then no-border. I definitely
> dislike no-feather, and I really dislike the original (screenshot.jpg).
>
> Have we talked about the text at the bottom of the screen? I think having
> that amount of text on the login screen is going to distract the user,
> especially when it's not even significantly important text.
>
> --Quentin
>
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Tim Abbott wrote:
>
> >I think I prefer no-border; I'm indifferent between solid-border and
> >no-feather.
> >
> > -Tim Abbott
> >
> >On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Nelson Elhage wrote:
> >
> >>I think I prefer solid-border, followed by no-border, and then
> >>no-feather.
> >>
> >>- Nelson
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:41:00AM -0500, Jonathan Reed wrote:
> >>>I have created 3 more alternatives:
> >>>(For some reason, when viewed in eye-of-gnome, all these PNGs look
> >>>slightly blurred, but there is in fact no "blurriness" or feathering on
> >>>any of the borders. They look fine when gdm displays them.)
> >>>
> >>>-screenshot-no-feather.png which removes the feathering around the
> >>>gradient.
> >>>-screenshot-solid-border.png which replaces the gradient border with a
> >>>slightly darker shade of red.
> >>>-screenshot-no-border.png which removes the gradient entirely
> >>>
> >>>The files are attachments to ATN-4 in Jira, and also appear in /mit/
> >>>jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/
> >>>
> >>>They are listed above in my order of preference from most preferred to
> >>>least preferred.
> >>>
> >>>Other people should rank them in order of preference (or tell me that
> >>>you don't care). Preferably today, so that we can close this issue and I
> >>>will package up the complete theme before tomorrow at noon.
> >>>
> >>>The background is still solid. Again, someone who knows and uses
> >>>Inkscape or Illustrator or something which can export SVGs should feel
> >>>free to create one, but I don't think that's a blocking issue.
> >>>
> >>>-Jon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:09 PM, William Cattey wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>If I had the clue, I'd sit down in inkscape and create two png's:
> >>>>
> >>>>1. A texture map to replace the solid background.
> >>>>2. A version of the box around the login dialog that has a harder edge
> >>>>around it.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Bill
> >>>>
> >>>>On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Geoffrey Thomas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hm, maybe I'm biased here, but I don't really see the advantage over
> >>>>>the present theme. It keeps the same garish giant red background
> >>>>>(which will only be more imposing on widescreen cluster machines),
> >>>>>although I do like punting the other UI elements from the center. I'm
> >>>>>also not a huge fan of the gradient and the fuzziness around it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'd be interested to see some texture or full-screen abstract design
> >>>>>in the background.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The bar at the bottom with buttons and icons at the bottom and a
> >>>>>date in the bottom right has a too-strong resemblance to gnome-panel
> >>>>>or somesuch. I do agree with comments elsewhere in the thread
> >>>>>concurring with the move to Gtk-native or at least non-flat buttons;
> >>>>>my design explicitly aped Athena 9's login screen and the website's
> >>>>>color and font scheme, and didn't try to be visually appealing in its
> >>>>>own right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Geoffrey Thomas
> >>>>>geofft@mit.edu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Jonathan D Reed wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>athena-10-fuzzbox.png which gets rid of the maroon background,
> >>>>>>>which gets rid of the blurring around the Debathena owl, but not
> >>>>>>>the login window.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>/mit/jdreed/Public/gdmtheme/athena10-alt-theme.tgz keeps the
> >>>>>>backgronud and gets rid of the feathering. screenshot-alt.jpg in
> >>>>>>the same directory is the screenshot, and I've uploaded a PNG
> >>>>>>version to Jira.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>athena-10-whiteroom.png which gets rid of both the background and
> >>>>>>>the box around the login window.
> >>>>>>>The whiteroom alternative looks rather clean. Is it too sterile?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I think it's way too sterile, to the point that it looks
> >>>>>>monochrome, but that's just me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Again, I'm happy to replace the background with an SVG if you want
> >>>>>>more texture, but I don't have the time to learn Inkscape right
> >>>>>>now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-Jon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
