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"Other Options" xlogin button

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Tue Dec 2 14:26:18 2008

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:25:33 -0500

This is related to Quentin's thread about gdm, but because it's a  
policy discussion and not a technical one, I chose to start a new  
thread.

Bill and I talked about the buttons today, and we took a look under  
"Other Options"

- xcluster (arguably still useful)
- library access (Barton telnet hasn't worked in years)
- Workstation information (no one uses it, and athinfo provides the  
same information)
- MITVMA login (desupport)
- moira (namespace) - desupport, people can use webmoira or login for  
chpobox
- Shut down window system, aka Ctrl-P (can be useful)
- 8 bit mode (which is only needed for arcane Sun software, so it  
should go away)

There's also the "Register for an Account" button, which arguably has  
a higher priority over things in the Other Options menu.

I propose one of the following:

a) Set up buttons to run custom commands for xcluster and account  
registration.  We only include them in debathena-cluster, and we force  
DISPLAY to :0.0 under the assumption that cluster hardware will only  
ever have one display.

b) Eliminate buttons completely, and re-enable the old "register"  
account to allow people to register that way.

c) Create a single button that runs a browser in "kiosk mode" (defined  
however we want), and thus allows people to run the reg applet, access  
the cluster map, access barton, and do all sorts of neat stuff.

It's important to note that we (OLC, Accounts) would like some method  
of account registration to be available from an Athena workstation.  A  
problem we frequently encounter is that someone cannot use the  
registration applet because of browser incompatibilities, Java  
incompatibilities, or other problems.  The easiest answer to that  
problem is "Go find an Athena workstation", since we know that the reg  
applet on a workstation always works, and it takes much less time than  
sorting out weird Java problems on Windows.

-Jon

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