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Re: Could an arch/i386_deb40/bin be created in the gnu locker for Athena 10.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ken Raeburn)
Tue Oct 7 17:15:02 2008

From: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@MIT.EDU>
To: William Cattey <wdc@mit.edu>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:14:14 -0400
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On Oct 7, 2008, at 15:37, William Cattey wrote:
> With people starting to use Athena 10, there is a screw case with  
> the gnu locker that needs to be remedied:
>
> People like me have "add gnu" in their Athena .environment file.

This may be the first bug. :-)
Nothing has changed in the gnu locker in a while; on my Linux box,  
only "recode" is dated 2007, some gpg programs dated 2006 (because of  
a security update), and everything else 2005 or older; the newest  
version of gcc is almost 7 years old.  Probably very little of that  
software is current.

I've long been in favor of scrapping the entire volume and rebuilding  
from scratch -- just the platforms we care about now, current versions  
of the programs, and probably omitting from Linux builds all the stuff  
likely to be local or trivially installed.  And revisit the whole plan  
of using "gwhatever" names for things.  But that means checking to see  
if any classes are using it, etc., and a non-trivial investment of  
someone's time....

Putting in an empty directory instead might fix your gtar problem, but  
would also mean *not* getting any programs that are less likely to be  
installed locally, like runtest or gpg.  A directory of symlinks that  
doesn't include gtar may be a better short-term fix, and is probably  
the minimal behavioral change from the current state, if we don't want  
to get too invested in actually fixing things for real.  (I think  
really fixing the locker is the right way to go, I just don't think  
anyone cares about it enough at this point to do it.)

Ken

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