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Re: Suggested amendments to the Athena10 docs.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Cattey)
Mon Sep 22 17:13:35 2008

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From: William Cattey <wdc@MIT.EDU>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:13:11 -0400
To: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>

Interesting.  I agree we should document it.  It's probably as easy as:

	"Do not be concerned if, during the Athena install you are notified
	that new updates are available.  This is a normal part of the install."

However, I'm concerned there is more going on.  As I said, when I  
booted up,
there were updates I needed but I was not notified about.  Furthermore,
when I took the two initial updates, the additional 118 I needed were  
not
mentioned until I went and clicked on "Check Now" after the first two  
came in.

-Bill

"Like my father before me, I shall remain 5 years old till the day I  
die!"



On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Greg Hudson wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 16:27 -0400, William Cattey wrote:
>> Instead, part way through the Athena install I get notified there  
>> are updates.
>
> Ah, this.  This is a little tricky to explain.
>
> We have modifications to certain system packages like bash.  The  
> install
> script has several steps, which boil roughly down to:
>
>   1. Add apt repository to sources.list
>   2. Install a metapackage.
>
> Between step 1 and step 2, the Ubuntu update manager notices that
> sources.list has changed and notices the Debathena updates to bash,
> tcsh, and so forth.  Despite appearances, these are not Ubuntu native
> updates.
>
> This is a usability wart, and aside from documenting it, I'm not sure
> what we can do about it.
>
>> 	apt-file update needed
>
> apt-file is poorly packaged, in my opinion.
>
> Fortunately, it isn't installed on most systems.  You got it  
> because you
> answered yes to the debathena-debian-dev package question during the
> install.
>
>


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