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Re: Building our own Kerberos

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Abbott)
Sat Jan 12 01:34:22 2008

Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:34:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Tim Abbott <tabbott@MIT.EDU>
To: Quentin Smith <quentin@mit.edu>
cc: athena10@mit.edu, debathena@mit.edu
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This results from the fact that the upstream tcsh Hesiod support is 
apparently slightly different code than the Athena tcsh Hesiod patch, 
differing essentially in the ~~ feature.  It would not be difficult to 
patch tcsh to add support for the ~~ feature since we are already 
rebuilding it and tcsh uses the dpatch patch management system, but 
there's basically no demand for it (it took over a year for this to be 
noticed on Linerva).  Anders is apparently working on this now, since he's 
tired of Quentin complaining about it, but I'm pretty sure nobody other 
than Quentin cares.

 	-Tim Abbott

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Quentin Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Tim Abbott wrote:
>
>> Eliminating the need to build our own bash and tcsh seems more difficult.
>
> I want to point out the debathena tcsh (and possibly bash) do not behave the 
> same as Athena tcsh and bash do. In particular, debathena-tcsh does not 
> support the ~~ syntax for accessing lockers. For example:
>
> athena% ls -ld ~~freeculture
> drwxrwxrwx  11 root     root        2048 Dec 14 20:48 
> /afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/freeculture/
> athena% ls -ld ~freeculture
> drwxrwxrwx  11 root     root        2048 Dec 14 20:48 
> /afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/freeculture/
>
> debathena% ls -ld ~~freeculture
> Unknown user: ~freeculture.
> debathena% ls -ld ~freeculture
> drwxrwxrwx 11 root root 2048 2007-12-14 20:48 
> /afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/freeculture/
>
> This is particularly important when local users mask lockers; debathena 
> provides no way to access the locker (short of using /mit/lockername). I also 
> suspect there are people who are trained to use ~~.
>
> --Quentin
>
>>
>> 	-Tim Abbott
>> 
>

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