[424] in athena10
Re: root logins
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Geoffrey Thomas)
Wed Aug 13 16:47:40 2008
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:46:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@MIT.EDU>
To: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@mit.edu>
cc: "athena10@mit.edu" <athena10@mit.edu>
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Geoffrey Thomas
geofft@mit.edu
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Mitchell E Berger wrote:
> People who are used to Linux expect sudo? Really? I thought that
> was an Ubuntuism. But I can't stand it, and the first thing I do
> when I reboot after an Ubuntu install is set the root password, and
> I can't remember ever setting up an Ubuntu machine for someone else
> where they didn't either ask me for the root password or set it
> themselves. It's really sort of annoying when you need to hunt
> something down by running several privileged commands and need to
> preface each one with 'sudo', and I've had people laugh at me for
> running 'sudo /bin/sh', so I'm not sure what they think the right
> thing is.
>
> Mitch
>
>> I'm also a fan of using sudo, because it works with the "Athena 10 is
>> normal Ubuntu with some custom packages" thing. People who are used to
>> Linux expect sudo, not su with some obscure command to get the root
>> password.
>>
>> - Evan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Xavid <xavid@MIT.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2008/08/13, at 16:16, Jonathan Reed wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alternatively, is there a need for ordinary users to become root in
>>>> clusters any more?
>>>
>>> I know of at least one class (6.824) that had students become root
>>> in order to install a kernel module. In general, I think it's nice
>>> to let people who have a need for root to use it in clusters. In
>>> Athena 10, this would provide an easy way for people to
>>> (temporarily) install software without having to build it from
>>> source in a locker.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'd be in favor of using sudo instead of a widely-known
>>> root password for clusters, but I don't have any particularly
>>> compelling arguments either way.
>>>
>>> ~Xavid
>
