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Re: Popular locker software

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Thu Jun 19 10:20:10 2008

Cc: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>
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From: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@MIT.EDU>
To: athena10@mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:19:25 -0400

It was pointed out to me that Alex is not on this list, though I  
believe he was reading it via discuss.  However, I will follow up with  
Alex about the questions I had for him.

-Jon

On Jun 19, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Jonathan Reed wrote:

> Remind me what's happening with psuedo-locker software such as  
> OpenOffice and Acrobat Reader?   Are we using the native Ubuntu  
> versions?   If so, what is the future of the lockers?
>
> And will we still be adding applications to the panel itself?   My  
> documentation and frosh presentations rely on the presence of the  
> "Mail", "WWW" and "Prompt" icons, but I can change that if necessary  
> (as long as I know by August what the new layout will be).   If  
> we're still adding applications to the panel, I'd like to see Emacs  
> punted or replaced with gedit, and having OpenOffice and Acrobat in  
> the panel would be nice.
>
> Has any outreach been made to pubs?  I know the pocket references go  
> to the printer soon, and they do include screenshots.   It would  
> probably be good to know what deadlines there are, so we can at  
> least have a mockup for screenshots.   Or will Athena 10  
> documentation be handled separately from the summer printing runs?    
> At the very least, I'd imagine we won't need as much Athena 9.4  
> documentation.
>
> Getting back to the question at hand, in addtition to MATLAB, I'd  
> include the other apps from the "Major Applications" table on the  
> "What Runs Where" page, dropping those which will no longer exist.   
> So basically:
>
> Maple
> Mathematica
> MATLAB
> Pro-E
> SAS
> S-Plus
> Stata
> Tecplot
> Xess
>
> I think S-Plus and Tecplot have seen declining usage, so we could  
> punt those.   Alex:  Can you provide a rough ranking of those apps  
> in order of popularity?  There's also the question of what to do  
> with StarOffice.  Alex:  Do you have any info about who still uses  
> StarOffice over OpenOffice?   Perhaps any demand for StarOffice  
> could be satisfied with OpenOffice add-ons such as template packs  
> and sample docs.  But that's a a bit outside the scope of the  
> question.
>
> If we feel like it, having a few of the more popular online  
> resources in the menu might be nice, via the libraries.mit.edu/get/  
> URL scheme:
>
> libraries.mit.edu/get/safari
> libraries.mit.edu/get/oed
>
> etc
>
> But perhaps those are best maintained as global Firefox bookmarks or  
> something, and there is the fact that the user might not have certs.
>
> -Jon
>
> On Jun 19, 2008, at 9:42 AM, ghudson@MIT.EDU wrote:
>
>> In Athena 9.4, we hijacked the GNOME panel menu entirely and, through
>> a complicated mechanism, outsourced its maintenance to some nebulous
>> group of people over in Academic Computing (a sub-department which no
>> longer exists).  That menu structure hasn't changed since late 2005.
>>
>> In Athena 10 we will not be hijacking the panel menu, but we will be
>> providing, via standard mechanisms, a sub-menu named "Locker  
>> Software"
>> providing easy access to popular software.  To qualify, a piece of
>> software should be:
>>
>> * Commercial, or otherwise not available natively in Ubuntu
>> * Used with reasonably high frequency
>> * Possessing of educational value
>>
>> The poster child is Matlab.  I could probably name a few other pieces
>> of locker software I believe to be popular off the top of my head,  
>> but
>> there are others here more qualified to do so.  So, if you have
>> insight in this area, please respond with your list.
>>
>> Thanks.
>


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