[2064] in athena10
Re: Mail folder policy
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Quentin Smith)
Sun Apr 5 02:57:46 2009
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 02:57:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Quentin Smith <quentin@MIT.EDU>
To: Greg Price <price@mit.edu>
cc: Evan Broder <broder@mit.edu>, Tim Abbott <tabbott@mit.edu>,
debathena@mit.edu
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I noticed this ~9 months ago when this data was presented to a focus group
I was part of; I brought this up then, as well, and they didn't have an
answer for why they had missed Pine.
--Quentin
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Greg Price wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:19:48AM -0400, Quentin Smith wrote:
>> The statistics you reference were collected from outgoing.mit.edu based
>> on the X-Sender header in each outgoing message. Since pine/alpine
>> doesn't send an X-Sender header that identifies it, those statistics did
>> not actually capture the complete set of mail clients.
>>
>> (i.e. the numbers are wrong.)
>
> Thanks for noticing this! On zephyr Evan reported the least common
> client as having about 150 users, and it didn't seem plausible that
> Pine was less than that.
>
> If someone wants to try to get a sense of the real numbers, the
> message IDs identify pine/alpine clearly and usually other clients.
> We don't have outgoing.mit.edu logs on hand, but a big discussion list
> will do for a rough estimate.
>
>
> When I've done this at Harvard a few years ago, the answer was, very
> roughly, equal parts webmail, Pine, and Apple Mail+Thunderbird.
>
> Greg
>
