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Re: Who is responsible for the Debathena build machines?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anna Glasgall)
Sat Dec 4 18:00:04 2021

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From: Anna Glasgall <glasgall@mit.edu>
To: Cel Skeggs <cela@mit.edu>, Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu>
CC: debathena-root <debathena-root@mit.edu>,
        Debathena Trac
	<debathena@mit.edu>, sipb-hwops <sipb-hwops@mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 17:59:50 -0500
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On Sat, 2021-12-04 at 15:04 -0500, Cel Skeggs wrote:
> [- sipb-office, - sipb-hwops-users]
> Hi Anna,
> To confirm -- do you mean that you are actively using just NEUTRON-
> STAR and PACKAGE-FUSION, or also HECATONCHEIRES as well?

Just p-f and n-s. Hecatoncheires was a vasilvv project, iirc, and I
have no idea what if anything ever happened to it.

p-f is also a test dialup; it would be _nice_ for it to retain power
during an outage but it would not be a requirement. n-s does not need
UPS power.


Thanks for the reminder about machine room access. I will try and
figure out scheduling for that when I next have a chance.

Apologies for the delay and thanks,

Anna

> Also, did you get the email regarding the status of these servers
> sent on 11/19? We're looking for a response to that from the people
> currently responsible for the machines. Reproduced here:
> >     Subject:  Current status of NEUTRON-STAR, PACKAGE-FUSION, and
> > HECATONCHEIRES in the SIPB machine room?  Date:  Fri, 19 Nov 2021
> > 18:02:56 -0500  From:  Cel Skeggs <cela@mit.edu>  To: 
> > debathena@mit.edu  CC:  sipb-hwops@mit.edu 
> >  
> >  Hi Debathena maintainers,
> >  
> >  SIPB Hardware Operations (HWOPS) is surveying the current machines
> > in the SMR, to determine which servers need to be on UPS power,
> > which
> > servers don't need UPS power, and which servers can be completely
> > decommissioned and removed from the rack.
> >  
> >  As far as we can tell, NEUTRON-STAR, PACKAGE-FUSION, and
> > HECATONCHEIRES appear to be the current Debathena machines in the
> > SMR. Our current understanding is that these machines are not used
> > for online production services, but rather used for building
> > packages
> > for Debathena, and therefore would be able to be shut off during a
> > power outage without causing any serious problems. Correspondingly,
> > we believe that they do not require UPS power. Could you let us
> > know
> > whether this seems correct? If this were the case, it would help us
> > limit our power consumption and reduce the budgetary impact of
> > buying
> > new UPSes.
> >  
> >  Thank you,
> >  Cel Skeggs
> >  SIPB HWOPS
>  I'm not quite sure why I had debathena@mit.edu written down as the
> contact for these servers in my notes, but it looks like it wasn't
> the
> right list to email; am I correct in thinking that we should be
> contacting debathena-root@mit.edu regarding the servers instead?
> In any case, we will need a confirmation of whether the servers
> you're responsible for either a) continue to require UPS power, or b)
> could be operated without UPS power. Just let us know which one is
> the case.
> Also, please feel free to reach out to us at sipb-hwops@mit.edu if
> you are not in COVID Pass and need to perform maintenance on any
> machines in the SMR, such as to resolve the boot issue you mentioned;
> we are able to provide escorted access under current MIT policies,
> and would be happy to schedule a time to do so.
> Thank you,
>  Cel Skeggs
>  SIPB HWOPS
> On 12/3/21 11:16 PM, Anna Glasgall wrote:
>  
> >  
> > On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 17:52 -0500, Alex Chernyakhovsky wrote:
> >  
> > > +glasgall is responsible for the Suns.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 5:36 PM Cel Skeggs <cela@mit.edu> wrote:
> > >  
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > 
> > > >  HWOPS is trying to determine what the status is of the
> > > > NEUTRON-STAR, 
> > > >  PACKAGE-FUSION, and HECATONCHEIRES machines, which we believe
> > > > have been 
> > > >  used as Debathena build machines.
> > > > 
> > > >  The last person we know to have been responsible for them was
> > > > Victor 
> > > >  Vasiliev (vasilvv), back around 2015. Has anyone been actively
> > > > using or 
> > > >  maintaining these machines since then?
> > > > 
> > > >  If there are no active maintainers for these machines, we are 
> > > >  considering decommissioning them. If you know anyone who has
> > > > been 
> > > >  responsible for them recently, who could help us understand
> > > > their 
> > > >  status, please let us know.
> > > > 
> > 
> > I am actively using them, although right now they need an in-person
> > visit to figure out why p-f is stalled at OBP.
> > 
> > thanks,
> > 
> > Anna
> > 
> >  
> > >  
> > > > Thank you
> > > >  Cel Skeggs
> > > >  SIPB HWOPS
> > > > 
> > 
>  



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