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Re: Replace Sun Java with OpenJDK? [Re: Updates to debathena-thirdparty]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Tue Mar 10 17:32:05 2009

Cc: Alex T Prengel <alexp@mit.edu>, Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@mit.edu>,
   debathena@mit.edu
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From: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@MIT.EDU>
To: Anders Kaseorg <andersk@mit.edu>
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On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Anders Kaseorg wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Alex T Prengel wrote:
>> so should we make the latter the default on cluster machines instead?
>
> Can we consider moving to OpenJDK by default instead of Sun Java?
> (Packages openjdk-6-* instead of sun-java6-*.)

If OpenJDK actually works, I would be fine with this.  This seems like  
a particularly good time to try it and find out what breaks, and if we  
need to switch back to sun-java6 by default for the summer, we can.   
However, I will defer to Alex on this, since he knows more about the  
various requirements of packages.  I know that some vendors, for  
example, want you to run one specific JRE, and will tell you to go  
away if you're not using the one they want.

> It is possible to install both openjdk-6-* and sun-java6-*; I don’t  
> care
> so much about the latter being present, but I would still advocate  
> making
> (leaving) OpenJDK the default.

I would advocate for installing sun-java6 as well.  In addition to  
what I described above, plenty of users explicitly want Sun Java,  
whether they need it or not.  I suspect much of that is due to bad  
experiences with GNU "Java", but still, it would probably be good if  
it was there.

-Jon

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