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Re: the debathena-managed metapackage

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Abbott)
Thu Mar 5 17:27:01 2009

Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:25:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Tim Abbott <tabbott@MIT.EDU>
To: Greg Price <price@mit.edu>
cc: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@mit.edu>, debathena@mit.edu
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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Greg Price wrote:

> To put this another way, I think this means three packages fewer than
> debathena-cluster:
> 
>  debathena-cluster-login-config
>  debathena-reactivate
>  debathena-larvnet

Yeah, I think it would be desireable for -cluster machines to not differ 
from -managed machines in a user-visible way other than the login snapshot 
behavior.

> This is basically reasonable.  I think this and the long list of
> dependencies it would include point out some issues that we should
> think about:
> 
>  - cluster-login-config, among other changes, enables a user to log
>    out someone who's left the screensaver going for a while.  Many of
>    the users who want -managed, the ones setting up local public
>    machines, may want this.

Yeah, we should probably split that out.

>  - Several of the packages pulled in here represent Athena software
>    and may belong in -workstation or lower: -transcript-glue,
>    -misc-glue, -xlock.  I believe the main reason they aren't already
>    is that they were written by ghudson and rbasch, who were focussed
>    on the cluster release.

Quite possibly.  I don't particularly like what these packages do; we may 
want to remove these attachandrun scripts once command_not_found support 
is working.  But they should probably be in -workstation if we have them 
in -cluster.

>  - -build-depends really should be in -extra-software.

Seems reasonable.  

> If we made all of these changes, then debathena-managed would become
> 
> Depends: debathena-workstation, debathena-extra-software,
>  debathena-auto-update, debathena-clusterinfo, debathena-tmp-cleaner

That certainly sounds like the software one might expect on -managed.  
Probably also debathena-third-party, once that is installable?

	-Tim Abbott



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