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the debathena-managed metapackage

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Wed Mar 4 19:21:06 2009

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:20:10 -0500

It has been pointed out that the debathena-managed metapackage has  
been discussed in a number of forums, but not yet in any single forum  
that reaches everyone.  Hopefully this is that forum...

For some time now, there has been discussion of creating a metapackage  
somewhere between -cluster and -workstation.  This package has been  
tenatively named "-managed".  Here is what the package contents are  
envisioned to be:

Depends: debathena-auto-update, debathena-build-depends, debathena- 
clusterinfo, debathena-dns-config*, debathena-emacs-config, debathena- 
extra-software, deabthena-misc-glue, debathena-{ntp|chrony}-config,  
debathena-tmp-cleaner, debathena-transcript-glue, debathena- 
workstation, debathena-xlock

* debathena-dns-config is debatable, I don't care either way

Basically, it's a cluster package, minus the login chroot, minus  
larvnet, and minus syslog-config

The intended audience of this package is twofold:
- people who currently have Athena 9 workstations that they want to  
install and forget about
- people who maintain departmental or group clusters

The auto-updater is one of the more important packages here.  The  
reason the answer is not "Just install workstation and the auto- 
updater" is because it's an extra step and frankly, there's a lot of  
value both to the user and Support folks if users can install  
something and not actually have to care about explicitly keeping it up  
to date.    One of the primary reasons to choose Athena 9 over RHEL/ 
Ubuntu/Fedora/whatever is that you can install it and feel reasonably  
assured that it's kept up to date.  It's a very "hands-off" experience  
which comes at the expense of flexibility, and many people prefer that  
tradeoff.

I think that's mostly it - others should chime in if I missed anything.

-Jon




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