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Re: /svn/athena r23449 - trunk/debathena/debathena/xsession/debian
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Price)
Thu Feb 5 17:29:46 2009
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:28:45 -0500
From: Greg Price <price@MIT.EDU>
To: William Cattey <wdc@mit.edu>
Cc: Evan Broder <broder@mit.edu>, debathena@mit.edu
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Thanks! Glad to hear these are being worked on.
I agree that zlogs are a pain to use. The barnowl setup that Evan
mentioned is much more pleasant, which is why most active SIPB folks
have shifted to it away from using zlogs to catch up. Maybe someday
someone will take it upon themselves to make an equally convenient way
to read old zephyrs without having a live process of one's own that
was around when they were sent. For now, keeping a barnowl around is
good enough for day-to-day use, so nobody has.
Greg
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 04:07:36PM -0500, William Cattey wrote:
> I discussed with Arnis Kleitnieks yesterday two Jira issues:
>
> 1. Getting athena10@mit.edu to receive notice when anything in the
> ATN project changes.
>
> 2. How after setting up touchstone certificate login how I (and
> apparently others) don't get logged in automatically but have to
> click 4 times to get to touchstone, select certificates, and go.
>
> I am hopeful that this will make life with Jira better. I TOTALLY
> agree that having to scan stuff every day is a pain. Speaking of
> which, we really should come up with a better way for people like me
> to see what's been discussed in class debathena while I'm away than:
>
> guess a debathena.X for how many days I might have been away
> read through the file using more or less.
> cross my eyes to match the message with the sender
> read the stuff I've read to make sure I didn't miss anything.
> actually see the relevant new z-grams.
>
> And yes, I'm trying to make the point that keeping up with class
> debathena with the present tools is a much bigger pain than scanning
> Jira, even though scanning Jira is going to get fixed and stop being
> needed...
>
> -Bill
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Greg Price wrote:
>
> >On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 03:02:22PM -0500, Evan Broder wrote:
> >>Greg Price wrote:
> >>>This will count for more than it does now if we can get Jira to send
> >>>mail when tickets are updated. Do you actually make a habit of
> >>>scanning Jira threads to see what's new? I doubt many of us do
> >>>or will.
> >>
> >>Yeah, actually, I do, mostly because I want to help close the
> >>gap-to-go-live so we can actually get this damn thing into clusters.
> >
> >OK. I have enough separate things to scan regularly, and I bet just
> >about everyone else does too. This would work better if it sent mail.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>Also, after just now looking at ATN-9 (*) I think you mean another
> >>>one, though neither 'quota' nor 'warn' appears in the title of any
> >>>ticket so I don't know which one.
> >>
> >>No, ATN-9 is the right ticket - the ticket is poorly named, but it's
> >>really discussing changes to the xsession. See the comments.
> >
> >Aha. It's up in the first comment, before a bunch of unrelated
> >things. Yeah, that's not really a discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> >>I got to do the 4-click-version of things when I was accessing
> >>Stellar
> >>from my iPod. There are checkboxes for both "Always log in with
> >>Kerberos" and "Always login with certificates"
> >
> >Thanks, I'll watch for those next time.
> >
> >Greg
>
