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Re: minor issue with autoinstaller, I think

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Abbott)
Sat Jan 31 17:12:10 2009

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:11:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Tim Abbott <tabbott@MIT.EDU>
To: debathena@mit.edu
cc: Evan Broder <broder@mit.edu>
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Maybe we should just adjust the documentation in the installer to make 
clear that you may need to start a new shell in order to run renew the 
first time?

 	-Tim Abbott

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Rishi Gupta wrote:

> Confirmed.
>
> Thanks,
> -Rishi
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Tim Abbott <tabbott@mit.edu> wrote:
>> Actually, the renew command should be available on all Debathena systems --
>> the debathena-bash-config package provides it for users not using the Athena
>> dotfiles.
>>
>> The problem here is likely that changes to shell aliases only take effect
>> when you start a new shell, and so the shells you had already existing when
>> you installed Debathena don't have the renew command.  Can you confirm that
>> the "renew" command works on your machine if you start a new shell?
>>
>> (you may not need to start a new one because your shells from yesterday have
>> likely all exited, but it should definitely work if you start a new shell by
>> running "bash".)
>>
>>        -Tim Abbott
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Rishi Gupta wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. Just fyi, http://debathena.mit.edu/install still says you
>>> should use renew instead of kinit; aklog, which might confuse people
>>> that don't have it.
>>>
>>> -Rishi
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Evan Broder <broder@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The renew command is provided by the Athena standard dotfiles, which
>>>> aren't sourced by default for non-Athena accounts. If you want to source
>>>> those, add either "source /usr/lib/init/bashrc" to your .bashrc or
>>>> "source /usr/lib/init/cshrc" to your .cshrc, depending on which shell
>>>> you're using.
>>>>
>>>> - Evan
>>>>
>>>> Rishi Gupta wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (I do have kinit and aklog)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Rishi Gupta <rishig@mit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Auto-installing debathena-standard on Ibex, the "renew" command isn't
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rishi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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