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Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 08:59:49 -0500 To: athena-backup@MIT.EDU From: tjm@MIT.EDU (Tim McGovern) >Received: from SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU by EAGLE.MIT.EDU with SMTP > id AA01981; Tue, 6 Dec 94 15:01:12 EST >Received: from ietf-pers-25.ietf.toaster.net by MIT.EDU with SMTP > id AA26092; Tue, 6 Dec 94 15:01:04 EST >Received: by ietf-pers-25.ietf.toaster.net (8.6.9/4.7) id PAA00140; Tue, 6 >Dec 1994 15:01:01 -0500 >Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 15:01:01 -0500 >From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@MIT.EDU> >Message-Id: <199412062001.PAA00140@ietf-pers-25.ietf.toaster.net> >To: tjm@MIT.EDU, cec@MIT.EDU >Cc: dcnsm@MIT.EDU >Subject: A further thought on threads.... >Address: 1 Amherst St., Cambridge, MA 02139 >Phone: (617) 253-8091 > >Here's a further thought I had on threads --- it's been said that we do >have developers who understand threads, since AFS uses threads. The >people who understand AFS, though, are people like Richard and Miki, >people who are are kernel programmers. This is not surprising since the >issues that one runs into when dealing with multi-threaded applications >are the same ones which kernel programmers have to worry about. > >What makes this interesting is that this is pushing in the opposite >direction where Susan and the R-Ready team have been pushing for, which >is trying to make more and more programs only require application >programmers, instead of C programmers, since C programmers are >presumably harder to come by and more expensive --- with kernel >programmers requiring more skill and expertise yet: > >Low-level High-level ><=====================================================================> >Kernel C Application >Programmers Programmers Programmers > >Whether or not we believe that the vision of allowing all administrative >programs to be written without the need of any C programmers can >actually be achived, moving towards requiring more kernel programmers >seems to be moving backwards in how we've been moving our development >group. It's been a long time since we've hired people on the basis of >their kernel development skills, after all. > > - Ted > >
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