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Venables and Ripley book

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Wenzl, Thurman)
Mon Jan 30 11:53:46 1995

From: "Wenzl, Thurman" <TYW1@NIOSHE2.EM.CDC.GOV>
To: 'snews' <s-news@utstat.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 10:57:00 EST


Sorry I got Bill Venables' name wrong in my last post, but I didn't expect 
such a hot reply from Brian Ripley.  Let me respond briefly to his note - 
trying to be calm though I did not care for the 'ignorant comment' 
reference.

Yes, Prof Ripley, I have read the back cover, and indeed have owned a copy 
for all of one week - so perhaps I was a little hasty.  But your quote 
speaks to your intentions to address 'would-be users', while I was offering 
personal opinion ('..seems aimed at those who are already deeply 
conversant..') about the outcome.

To be specific, I've been trying to better understand ms() for describing 
bimodal data, and found pp 242-3 to be quite difficult to follow - though I 
did not start at the beginning.

On the other hand, page 51 on table() may be precisely the sort of example, 
in relatively plain English WITH the result, which the original asker on 
this net inquired about.  Those interested in this thread might compare this 
excellent example with what appears in Help; in my opinion, the V&R version 
is far superior - especially for us 'newbies.'

And I do agree with the other poster, who pointed out the reasonable price. 


Thurman Wenzl, Natl Inst for Occl Saf and Heal, Cincinnati
tyw1@nioshe2.em.cdc.gov

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