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[S] Summarizing responses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nicole DePriest Demers)
Wed Jul 21 19:15:44 1999

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:10:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nicole DePriest Demers <ntd@stat.ohio-state.edu>
To: Patrick Connolly <P.Connolly@hort.cri.nz>
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According to Kim Elmore:
|>
|>
|>      In *record* time, I recieved excellent replies, all of
|> which, in one way or another, do what I want.  I'm amazed by the pool 
|> of very bright people who so willingly share their knowledge.  Thanks
|> so much.


On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Patrick Connolly wrote:

> Such willingness is even more amazing since scarcely more than 20% of
> people have the courtesy to acknowledge what was done for them.  It
> appears to me that the figure is low because a large number of people
> who ask basic questions on this list are undergrads who've always had
> their mothers to pick up after them and have yet to learn such arcane
> concepts as courtesy.

Now, now Mr. Connolly, me thinks you are giving the undergrads an unfair
rap.  We won't go into the statistical methodology you used to obtain you
80% nonresponse estimate and how you were able to conclude the majority
were undergrads.  Think back when you were an undergrad (for myself,
that is more years than I like to count).  Were you the epitome of
diplomacy and courtesy?  I know I wasn't (still working on it too :-]).

It's been my experience that many people learn by example and that after
enough exposure to acts of diplomacy and courtesy those who lack it 
eventually develop these desired characteristics themselves, (some taking
longer than others).  Of the three years I have been a part of this group 
it seems to me that this past year has seen a noticeable improvement in 
summarizing responses to the group.  Hopefully this trend will continue. 


> It's a great comfort to know that Market Forces do not control
> everything.  A very large part of what I know about S has come from
> postings on this list, and the occasional one of my own.  Long may it
> continue.

I agree with you that one can learn a lot from postings to this list, not 
only about Splus itself but also about helping others.  It's nice to know
that strangers from all over are willing to give a helping hand.

Well, I'll get off my soapbox now.  I'm getting hungry anyways.  Thanks
to all who have helped me in the past and to those in the future.

Nicole Demers

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Nicole Demers
Statistics Department
The Ohio State University
1958 Neil Ave., #404
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(614) 292-6038
ntd@stat.ohio-state.edu

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