[890] in libertarians
Re: [tjic@icd.teradyne.com: Re: Good quote]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Travis Corcoran)
Mon Apr 17 16:40:33 1995
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 95 16:36:06 EDT
From: tjic@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Travis Corcoran)
To: damartin@ampere.mit.edu
Cc: libertarians@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <9504172024.AA11343@ampere.mit.edu> (damartin@ampere.mit.edu)
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> From: damartin@ampere.mit.edu
> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:24:54 -0400
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> >I saw a lot of the debate over the creation of the group in
> >misc.survivalism and alt.politics.org.batf. I also learned enough
> >about the reality of militias (as opposed to the theory) to be a bit
> >skeptical.
>
> There do appear to be a lot of conspiracy theorists posting to
> the newsgroup.
>
> If you are paranoid, you might also want to refrain from
> actually posting to the newsgroup for fear that the FBI, BATF,
> etc. are taking down names. Of course, maybe I am reacting like the
> conspiracy theorists when I say that!:-)
I wouldn't be suprised if they are, but
(1) I have little or nothing to say that is illegal. If I did have
anything illegal to say, it would only be said to friends via
unsigned, encrypted email via an anonymous remailer to increase
security and deniability.
(2) my poltical opinions are already part of the public record, as I
rant about them daily and post to several different lists and groups.
(2a) my advocacy of personal armament/interest in firearms is
well documented everywhere from the Massachusets police
records (where my FID is on file) to the NRA and GOAL
membership roles, to my name of magazine subscription lists.
(2b) my advocacy of other individual rights is also documented
by my name on the lists of Reason, Liberty, etc.
(3) if rights are not officially repealed, but everyone is afraid to
excercise them, they are gone just the same.
On a topic related to 2a and 2b above, I just received this on the
cypherpunks list. It might interest people:
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 16:00:52 -0400
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken Kirksey)
Subject: Computers For Guns
So MANY comments come to mind, but I think I'll just let this one
speak for itself:
> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- They tried guns for cash, guns for groceries
> and guns for concert tickets. Now police are trying a cyberswap.
> Police will hand out used computers to anyone turning in a working
> handgun -- no questions asked.
> The program will begin April 22 in honor of Earth Day, police Capt.
> Timothy Hettrich said.
> The hundreds of donated IBM systems have software loaded on them and
> some also have modems. The Black Chamber of Commerce of San Francisco
> will provide free training.
> The guns will be destroyed.
> ``The people we are really after are the kids,'' Hettrich said. ``We
> want to give them something educational for their handguns.''
Two questions spring to mind;
1) I wonder if all that software that comes loaded on these machines
is legal? Anyone wanna call the SPA and/or the BSA?
2) Reckon PGP and SecureDrive are part of the included software? :-)
Ken
= Ken Kirksey Does a society manifestly incapable of protecting its =
= kkirksey@world.std.com citizens from crime and predation really have any =
= Mac Developer & moral authority to tell people what they may or may =
= Resident Cypherpunk not own or do to protect themselves? - James Wright =
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Back to work,
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TJIC (Travis J.I. Corcoran) TJIC@icd.teradyne.com
Member EFF, NRA, GOAL
opinions(TJIC) != opinions(employer(TJIC))
"Buy a rifle, encrypt your data, and wait for the Revolution!"
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