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Re: liberals support civil liberties?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Travis Corcoran)
Tue Sep 27 18:24:13 1994

Date: Tue, 27 Sep 94 18:19:50 EDT
From: tjic@ICD.teradyne.com (Travis Corcoran)
To: smcnair@willamette.edu
Cc: castillo@media.mit.edu, libertarians@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9409271504.A1489-0100000@gemini> (message from Shannon P McNair on Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT))

>  Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 15:13:22 -0700 (PDT)
>  From: Shannon P McNair <smcnair@willamette.edu>
>  
>  
>  
>  On Tue, 27 Sep 1994 castillo@media.mit.edu wrote:
>  
>  > >>The purpose was to show that the simple model "liberals are
>  > >>for civil liberties, conservatives are for economic freedom" doesn't
>  > >>always hold.  One could also give a list of economic restrictions favored
>  > >>by conservatives.
>  > > 
>  >Vernon > 
>  > One thing to keep in mind is that the right wing excesses of conservatives
>  > have many more judicial (esp. Supreme Court) impediments than the left
>  > wing excesses of liberals.  On many issues (school prayer, abortion,
>  > flag burning, etc.) ...
>  > 
>  > This is not to endorse the freedom-stealers of any political persuasion.
>  > But we're a bit safer with some grumbling by the right about prayer than
>  > with whining by the left about fairness.
>  > 
>  > 

>  Incredible.   I'm safer with the right that tends toward state-sponsored 
>  religion than leftist socialists.  Unbelievable. 

Do you not believe this to currently be the case in America?

Given that the judiciary tends towards left-wing activism, I agree
with Vernon that rightists in the executive and judiciary aren't as
dangerous as leftists in these posts: the checks-and-balances (also
known as Gridlock(tm)) of the constitutional system result in less
extremism being enacted.

I'd be interested in hearing why anyone thinks that either (1) we have
less to fear from the Left or (2) in practical terms, we have as much
to fear from the Left as from the Right.

To reiterate, I am speaking only in the context of 1990's America
where the Judiciary and the Media tend to be leftist.

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