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Re: Proposal for using NAPTR/URI records

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Petr Spacek)
Fri Feb 27 08:58:52 2015

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On 26.2.2015 20:20, Nico Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:02:11PM +0100, Petr Spacek wrote:
>> I forgot to comment on this:
>> QTYPE=ANY is unreliable because admins are disabling it in hope that
>> it will mitigate DNS-amplified DDoS attacks. (It would be better to
>> implement source-address filtering but what you can do ...)
> 
> I see, and it's probably a good idea, but in a DNSSEC world this is
> equivalent to timing out, no?

There are some 'legal' options how to avoid answering QTYPE=ANY queries:
Either send REFUSED to the client or set TC=1 in the answer and force client
to re-try over TCP.

Anyway, Firefox folks started an interesting (and possibly unintentional)
experiment with ANY queries so we can watch how it works in practice.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1093983

Petr Spacek  @  Red Hat

>> Unfortunately I do not have any data at hand but I believe that Viktor
>> Dukhovni or other folks interested in DNS and mail server could add
>> some details.
> 
> I'll ask him.
> 
>> Maybe this whole discussion should be moved to IETF dnsop mailing
>> list? After all, there is nothing Kerberos-specific, all the questions
>> seems to be about DNS service discovery.
> 
> Well, but there is something for KITTEN WG as well, since there'd be new
> requirements for KDC operators and -likely, or at least recommendations-
> for client implementors.
> 
> I agree that dnsop is probably the better venue.  It's definitely
> getting to the point where we should go ask for expert DNS advice, and
> NOTE WELL.
> 
> Nico

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