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Re: Anonymous pkinit and ticket policy

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Hartman)
Mon Nov 22 18:36:20 2010

From: Sam Hartman <hartmans@mit.edu>
To: jaltman@secure-endpoints.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:36:07 -0500
In-Reply-To: <4CEAEB00.9080206@secure-endpoints.com> (Jeffrey Altman's message
	of "Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:13:20 -0500")
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>>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@secure-endpoints.com> writes:

    Jeffrey> On 11/17/2010 6:58 PM, ghudson@mit.edu wrote:
    >> Right now, if you enable anonymous pkinit (by creating the
    >> WELLKNOWN/ANONYMOUS principal), the KDC will issue tickets with
    >> the anonymous client principal and any service principal--same as
    >> any other client principal.
    >> 
    >> It is not unheard of for services to offer some level of access
    >> to any user who can authenticate.  The existence (real or
    >> perceived) of such services may discourage people from using
    >> anonymous pkinit for its major use cases--FAST armor and host
    >> registration via anonymous kadmin.  If you are an integrator
    >> looking to simplify one of those use cases, you have caveats to
    >> worry about.

    Jeffrey> My perspective on this is that any service that is
    Jeffrey> intentionally offering services to any authentication
    Jeffrey> without examining the user principal name in any way is
    Jeffrey> already providing an anonymous service.  Therefore, there
    Jeffrey> is no change in the behavior.

I'm certainly aware of services that offer service to all authenticated
users within a realm.  However the things I'm aware of are either truly
public or examine the realm field.  The realm WELLKNOWN:ANONYMOUS is by
definition not going to be the local realm.

So, as part of this discussion I'd like to hear about specific services
that are affected.

--Sam
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