[15806] in Kerberos_V5_Development
Re: a suggestion for improving pkinit preauth plugin token choosing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simo Sorce)
Wed May 12 14:58:49 2010
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:58:42 -0400
From: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>
To: "Douglas E. Engert" <deengert@anl.gov>
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:59:15 -0500
"Douglas E. Engert" <deengert@anl.gov> wrote:
>
>
> Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:50:33 -0500
> > Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Second, this is a problem for PAM as well, and there there's no
> >> easy fix. PAM and gic are the interfaces that we've got, I'm
> >> afraid. Giving up on doing the best we can with the interface we
> >> have because we can't get it to be perfect seems wrong to me;
> >> taking a detour to extend PAM would be wrong as well as that'd be
> >> a huge project.
> >
> > Although fixing PAM is not in scope here, I would hope that the
> > interface can be chosen in a way that will not make it cumbersome to
> > use if someone comes up with something better than PAM in the
> > future.
> >
> > PAM is really a problem and I wouldn't be surprised to see
> > alternatives cropping out soon.
>
> Is it time to rewrite the PAM standards?
Certainly my desktop pals would like me to try to. :-)
> According to:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_Authentication_Modules
> PAM came from Sun, X/OPen now the Open Group further developed
> it and Red Hat had the first Linux-PAM. There is now the XSSO and
> OpenPAM too.
>
> This mail list has many of parties involved...
Yes, but PAM seem a bit off-topic here, I just wanted to remind that
PAM may not be the only consumer long term.
Simo.
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Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York
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