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Re: [Doug Engert ] Krlogind and ss-962301

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Hartman)
Mon Apr 15 18:52:57 1996

To: Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU>
Cc: "Richard Basch" <basch@lehman.com>, Sam Hartman <hartmans@MIT.EDU>,
        krbdev@MIT.EDU
From: Sam Hartman <hartmans@MIT.EDU>
Date: 15 Apr 1996 18:52:44 -0400
In-Reply-To: Marc Horowitz's message of Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:19:45 EDT

>>>>> "Marc" == Marc Horowitz <marc@MIT.EDU> writes:

    Marc> In message <199604152203.SAA00603@badger.lehman.com>,
    Marc> "Richard Basch" <basch@lehman.com> writes:
    >>> The problem is I don't know how well HP-UX 10.0 works.  (While
    >>> we do have some such machines, I don't readily have access to
    >>> them to test it out to comment further.)

    Marc> I had some serious problems when I tried to get streams
    Marc> working on hpux 10.x, which is why I reverted to
    Marc> berkeley-style stuff.  Doug/Sam seems to have gotten streams
    Marc> to work, but I'm still a little uncomfortable.  

	It is not clear to me that klogind will work once I get your
patches without reverting to Berkeley mode.  If it doesn't work, I'll
revert.  

	Also, if Cygnus or someone says the feel strongly that in this
instance, I'm wrong, I'll use berkeley mode on the HP.  I don't feel
that strongly about the issue.  I don't want to have to do this on
every platform, or as a general rule.

    Marc> I'm probably
    Marc> also biased from my OV days, when many of our customers
    Marc> required the absolute minimum changes from the
    Marc> vendor-provided programs.  It would be unfortunate for
    Marc> Cygnus or OV or any other kerberos vendor to have to change
    Marc> the MIT release because we were trying to be intellectual
    Marc> purists.  This is nice for an educational environment, but
    Marc> is inadequate for the real world.  If we want to make
    Marc> kerberos widely-accepted, it needs to be as painless as
    Marc> possible, and this means minimizing unnecessary changes.

	I would argue that consistency withing Kerberos is more important than emulating vendor behavior.  However, I'm not in the market of selling Kerberos.


    Marc> 		Marc



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