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Shortcuts in Cross Realm Authentication

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug)
Mon Aug 1 09:58:50 1994

Date: Mon, 01 Aug 94 08:58:32 CDT
From: "Doug" <Engert@anl.gov>
To: <GLENZ@OCSG.COM>
Cc: <KRB5-BUGS@MIT.EDU>, <AUTH-PILOT@ES.NET>

Glen,

Glad to here that others are interested in this problem as well.
The shortcut code I submitted to MIT WAS for 5.4.1 and works in
conjunction with the standard hierarchical cross realm
authentication.

Back around April 1, we exchanged notes on cross realm where you
asked about the "V4-style inter-realm authentication", thats
where two realms share keys directly. If that is your
modification, then it is there and does work.

I looked in 5.4.1 and 5.3 to see if there was any other changes
which would do cross realm authentication like the shortcuts. All
I see is the V4-style inter-realm authentication. I don't see
anything which looks like a shortcut code. Walk_rtree.c are
identical, gc_via_kdc.c and gc_via_tgt.c look like bug fixes
only. If the V4-style inter-realm authentication is not yours,
then I would be interested in which modules you changed in 5.4.1.

I would also be interested in how you can do the routing without
having a configuration file. For example, how would you pick a
"route" when you have realms like this:

 o ANL.GOV, FNAL.GOV, LLNL.GOV, PNL.GOV, and NERSC.GOV all are
   members on ES.NET and want to cross authenticate using the
   ES.NET realm.

 o But ANL.GOV, and FNAL.GOV are also members of HEP.NET, and
   would rather cross authenticate using HEP.NET rather then
   ES.NET. (An example, ANL and FNAL have not discussed this.)

Also note that all subrealms of all these organizations can use
these shortcuts as well. i.e. ECT.ANL.GOV could cross
authenticate to CTD.PNL.GOV by following the path:

   ECT.ANL.GOV
   ANL.GOV
   ES.NET
   PNL.GOV
   CTD.PNL.GOV


           Douglas E. Engert
           Systems Programming
           Argonne National Laboratory
           9700 South Cass Avenue
           Argonne, Illinois  60439
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           Internet: DEEngert@anl.gov

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From: Glen Zorn <glenz@ocsg.com>
Subject: Re: Shortcuts in Cross Realm Authentication
To: Doug Engert <DEEngert@anl.gov>
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Doug ~

We have had shortcut (as well as standard hierarchical) inter-realm
authentication running for some time, without extra config files).  We
submitted our changes to MIT, and I believe that they were included in B4.
Check it out!

~ gwz


Glen Zorn       Senior Scientist
glenz@OCSG.COM  CyberSafe Corporation

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