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Kerberos and adminstration of users

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugh C. Lauer)
Wed Jan 24 17:51:43 1990

From: lauer@BTC.KODAK.COM (Hugh C. Lauer)
To: kerberos@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Cc: lauer@BTC.KODAK.COM


I may have had too high an expectation for Kerberos, or perhaps I am
overlooking something obvious.  I had hoped that it would help me solve
an adminstration problem of a large number of users over a wide area
network, but upon experimentation it seems that it does not.

What I want to do:-  I have a half-dozen or so sites spread across the
country, each with a local system administrator (whom I am prepared to
trust).  I want each site to be able to register its own users, but I
want all of the users to be able to login into hosts at the other
sites, either physically when they are travelling or remotely via the
network.  When they do, I want them to at least be recognized as
themselves; in a more advanced world, it would be nice to also let them
have their own home directories, etc.

So I started experimenting with Kerberos; for the time being, I avoided
replicated databases and multiple realms.  For basics, I tried creating
a number of fictitious users in a single Kerberos database, then set up
and registered some services with the same database.  Then I
authenticated myself as one of these fictitious users and tried to do
what a real remote user would have done -- rlogin to one of the
registered servers.  The authentication seemed to proceed to
completion, but the server returned an error message of the following form:-

	pyramus% rlogin tundra
	login: lauer has not given you permission to login without a password.
	Password:

The only password that it seemed accept is MY personal password.

Of course, the fictitious user is not registered in /etc/passwd on the
remote machine, so what user id would he have become if he did
successfully log in?  do all such users become me?

Am I overlooking something very simple and dumb, or am I expecting too
much of Kerberos?  Do I have to register all of the users of all of my
sites in a giant /etc/passwd file and propagate it everywhere?  or what?

Thanks,

/Hugh Lauer
Kodak Boston Technology Center






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