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Re: information request

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Baxter)
Thu Dec 21 16:40:09 1995

To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:37:15 GMT
From: Tony.Baxter@bris.ac.uk (Tony Baxter)

In article <16761.199512201245@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk>,
   colin@udcf.gla.ac.uk (Colin Cooper) wrote:
>hello
>
>we would very much like to set up a machine here to act as
>a "remote login" front end for our campus. ie you must login via it.
>and one of teh ideas we had was to use kerberos to provide us with
>a secure login environment on that machine, which was differnet form
>teh rest of teh campus login systems.

I wonder what you are hoping to buy with this setup. Kerberos has one feature, 
and that is to provide authentication to a server machine without having a 
clear-text password pass across the [possibly-snooped] network. Assuming that 
you're using something like a PC to access the network, you don't have to try 
to store confidential encryption keys on the PC (which doesn't have any secure 
storage to keep out villains).

As soon as you take the Kerberos user software away from the workstation that 
the user is working on, you will be faced with the password-over-the-net 
problem.

>we do not wish to get involved in any legal problems so we were wondering
>about ebones, but we need to compile and run under solaris,  can you
>please tell us if thsi has been doen and where we may get the code
>from without falling fowl of any laws.

My impression (I'm not a lawyer) is that what is illegal [under USA law] is 
the export of encryption code from the USA. As far as I am aware, possession 
of the code is not an offence under UK law. [if it is, a number of people are 
in the s**t]. I believe that there is no issue about the legal position of 
ebones: the non-encryption bones were exported, and encryption installed 
outside the USA by a non-USA-citizen. It is version 4 Kerberos. Version 5 is 
also mounted on FTP servers outside the USA.

>most people only seem to have code for sunos, that i have spoken too
>
This I can't comment on.
>thanks
>
>colin
>

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