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Re: NFS security & interoperability

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Sat Mar 4 17:05:05 1995

To: kerberos@MIT.EDU
Date: 4 Mar 1995 21:49:16 GMT
From: tls@cloud9.net (Thor Lancelot Simon)

In article <199503021649.LAA06999@gza-client2.aktis.com>,
Dan Geer <geer@cam.ov.com> wrote:
>
>    That's nice.  When there is a free source-code implementation available,
>    I might think about using DFS in a production environment.
>
>You volunteering?

Not hardly.  I don't really know much about DFS, I just object to running 
stuff I can't get the source to in case I need it.

NQNFS seems to be okay, and I'm anxiously awaiting a stable release of 
the free NFS V3.  

Is DFS licensed like AFS -- X dollars per client, X dollars per server?  
I've always tried to stay away from AFS because I very strongly believe 
that networks with One Giant Server and lots of puny clients evince poor
network design.  Caching client code and the like are nice, but the Right
Solution is to design one's network so that most file access will always go 
to a local disk.  To build that kind of network with AFS, I'd have to 
pay for an AFS server license for every machine, which is prohibitive.  
We looked at AFS while I was at Panix, because we had substantial 
stability problems with the (alleged) NFS file locking code in SunOS and 
with NFS write performance, but we had to reject it out of hand because 
there was no reasonable pricing available for what we considered a 
well-balanced network design.

It's kind of like what my boss told me when I came back from a 
conference with a pile of Auspex brochures: "If we ever need to buy an 
Auspex, you're fired."  If DFS isn't licensed like that, I'll look at it 
harder.

ObKerb:  Does the NFS V3 code interoperate with the Kerberos support in 
the stock 4.4BSD NFS?  If not, this might pose a substantial problem for 
me.  Ick.


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Thor Lancelot Simon                                               tls@cloud9.net

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