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Re: Sites using Kerberos V5 in production (summary)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon A. Rochlis)
Thu Nov 17 11:10:49 1994

To: nessett@Eng.Sun.COM
Cc: kerberos@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "16 Nov 1994 23:43:00 GMT."
             <3ae5e4$1q6@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> 
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:57:34 -0500
From: "Jon A. Rochlis" <jon@cam.ov.com>

   
   There seems to be four sites currently using Kerberos V5 in
   production : 1) MIT,

Ted or Jeff may correct me, but I don't believe MIT is using V5 in
production. They are running a slave server (perhaps the main KDC by
now) but most of their accesses are V4, perhaps via V5's backward
compatibility.  V4 met most of MIT's needs and they have such a large
installed based (including Mac's and PC's) that migration is a
significant cost.

   So other than National Labs and Universities, the number of sites
   using Kerberos V5 in production seems rather small.
   
While there is evidence to support that conclusion and I've done
similar surveys over the years, I have come to really doubt the ask
around or ask the mailing list methodology. I think that there are a
lot of users of technology like Kerberos out there who do not read
these lists or who do not respond if they do.  I think those users
dominate in terms of numbers. When I was with MIT I was always
frustrated by the vendors and users who would pick up Kerberos but
never talk to us, much lest respond to a mailing list query. 

		-- Jon

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