[38419] in Kerberos
Kerberos n00b question.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Grant Taylor)
Mon Jan 7 12:35:07 2019
To: Kerberos <kerberos@mit.edu>
From: Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 10:33:22 -0700
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Hi,
I have what may seem like a Kerberos n00b question.
I've been around, but largely ignored, Kerberos for years. As I'm now=20
investigating doing things with it, and really liking what I'm seeing,=20
I'm starting to wonder if there are any security guidelines about where=20
it's safe to use Kerberos.
It's my (mis?)understanding that communications between Kerberos clients =
and the KDC are in the clear (but do not include the password), and that =
there is functionally no communications between a remote server and the K=
DC.
As such, I'm wondering if it would be relatively safe enough to use=20
Kerberos to authenticate to a VPS in the cloud when both the client and=20
KDC are on the LAN. I think Kerberized SSH would be the only Kerberos=20
related traffic across the Big Bad Internet to the VPS. Is this correct?=
Can anyone point me to some general reading that any /a ll Kerberos n00b =
should read? (I've been following How-Tos and gotten a lot to work.)
Thank you in advance.
--=20
Grant. . . .
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