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Re: Switching identity using kinit/kdestroy for NFSv4 mounts doesn't

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Wehn)
Mon Mar 16 05:33:40 2015

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:33:18 +0100
From: Robert Wehn <robert.wehn@rz.uni-augsburg.de>
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To: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>, Brandon Allbery <ballbery@sinenomine.net>,
        Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, "kerberos@mit.edu" <kerberos@mit.edu>
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Hello *

@Brandon, Ben:
On 13.03.2015, 15:05 Brandon Allbery wrote:
> ... the whole business about snooping ticket caches and caching its
> own private copy is concerning security-wise and seems like it
> would easily become confused.

On 13.03.2015, 16:53 Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> See Brandon's response as well, but from a security perspective,
> the kernel NFS implementation is wrong to cache things for so
> long, especially without providing a way to invalidate a cached
> entry.

It's nice to hear that we're not the only ones thinking this is not
such a good idea.


@Simo
On 13.03.2015 at 17:24 Simo Sorce wrote:
> Note that NFS does not cache a ticket, it simply does not destroy
> the GSS Session after it has been created.
didn't get this detail from our test
> An interface to allow to destroy the NFS's user session on kdestroy
> has been discussed with NFS upstream before but it hasn't gone
> anywhere yet.
Do you refer to these discussions or is there something else we missed?
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/46234
https://fedorahosted.org/gss-proxy/ticket/1


It looks like the Problem is well known and there have been ideas to
solve that which never got into the Kernel:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg34236.html
http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/asci/icsi-alpha/nfs-utils-patches/1.0.10-asci-2/nfs-utils-1.0.10-asci-017-add_nfslogin.dif

Has one of you an idea how the situation can be pushed to the right
direction?

Our Canonical Support Contact created a bug here
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93891
and maybe commenting that from the Kerberos community may help ...

Robert.

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