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Re: No mention of _kerberos TXT in RFCs / but we have DNSSEC now

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeffrey Altman)
Fri Oct 17 18:16:02 2014

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On 10/17/2014 2:24 AM, Rick van Rein wrote:
> Thanks Ken & Benjamin,
>=20
> Your combined response indicates that there is no clear reason that TXT=

> records ought to stay out, and indeed, that the recent introduction of
> DNSSEC into the landscape means it could have some re-evaluation.
>=20
> That=E2=80=99s pretty much what I wanted to know.  No need to dig up de=
tail-ridden
> discussions from the past!  Had it been public, then I think I would ha=
ve
> found it already anyway.
>=20
> Cheers,
>  -Rick


Rick,

Speaking as the other author of draft-ietf-krb-wg-krb-dns-locate-03, I
have no objection to revisiting the discussion of using TXT records
Kerberos in order to further reduce the need for client side
configuration.  However, I would be unhappy if the implemented
"_kerberos.<fqdn>" entry be standardized as-is.

In 2001 there wasn't much experience using TXT records and the choice of
"_kerberos.<fqdn>" was somewhat controversial in the DNS community.  In
2014, the current DNS best practice for use of TXT records is that the
TXT record be applied to the <fqdn> directly where the TXT record has a
format of

 "v=3D<protocol><version>; [tag=3Dvalue;]+"

For Kerberos an initial version describing only the REALM might be:

 "v=3Dkrb1; r=3DREALM;"

which would permit use to distribute other mandatory configuration in
the future.  However, I could imagine other information being provided
such as pre-auth hints; and public key information for the realm.

This discussion would be best held on the IETF Kitten mailing list.

Jeffrey Altman





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